no, bootmgr is not missing, but 'missing' in a another way. here is a screenshot of my root C: with the proper folder options to see bootmgr. I am confused because the bootmgr (compressed on vista+) is not visible. however with the exact some windows 7 pro it is visible on both of my virtual machines and also visible on windows 8. I am curious as to why I cannot see it. I would like to analyze how it works along side the windows debug symbols. I know i could just grab a copy from my virual machine or from the windows\boot backup. My ultimate question here is WHY is it not visible on my host machine. if there is any further information you need from me. let me know. thanks.