I got stuck with that nasty, nasty little program Windows Messenger and a bunch of other CRAP That I did not want when I downloaded Live Mail. It turns out that if you go to control panel, uninstall programs, click live essentials, uninstall/modify, you are then given a list of components to check for the uninstall. Just leave Live Mail unchecked. Thank god!. I'd been afraid of uninstalling live essentials for fear of losing live mail and all of my data. Why can't they just give us back Outlook Express? It was perfect. Live mail sucks jackass balls but it is better than nothing.