Hard disk always active and computer is very slow - wasn't used to be like this

Gil80

Senior Member
#1
Hi all.
I'm running Win7 Ultimate 64bit.
This is my rig:
CPU: Intel E8500 @ 3.45GHz (OC)
RAM: OCZ Titanium 2x2GB @ 1152MHz FSB432x8.0
MB: Gigabyte EX38-DS4 (BIOS F3)
GPU: ATI Palit 4870 1GB Dual Edition

I have WD HDD 500GB Sata2 and WD HDD 160GB Sata1 for my videos and music only.
The main HDD has two partitions C (100GB) and E (400GB).

I believe my computer is quite good and fast. At least it used to be. From some reason in the past month the HDD is grinding like a maniac and it makes everything slow. After each restart I have to wait at least 5 minutes for it to relax so I can launch applications.

I haven't installed anything dubious and I regularly check for viruses with NOD32 and spywares with SpyBot and also use windows defender and firewall. I also use Ccleaner for registry and cache files cleanup.

At system startup I'm running these applications:
1. Windows Sidebar
2. RocketDock
3. Stikynotes
4. Realtek ravcpl64.exe (sound thingy)
5. ESET NOD32

Disabling these apps didn't solve nor improve anything. My computer is powerful enough to handle these apps quickly.

These are the non-windows services that are running on startup:


And this is a screenshot of my HDD activity after startup:



Not long ago I could launch several apps simultaneously and they'd show up very quickly (firefox, office outlook, MSN messenger, Skype, Photoshop CS4).
I used to wait 10 seconds for Photoshop CS4 64bit to fully open with all the additional plugins, now I have to wait about 30 seconds!

Please don't tell me to reinstall Windows. But I'm open for other suggestions :)

Anymore info that can shed some light?

Thanks

Gil
 


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#2
According to your screenshots, several network (svchost.exe) services and Eset kernel (ekrn.exe) are using your disk.

You're having quite a number of services active, of course if you need them leave them on, but I would consider disabling some of those services, especially if this is your home pc without a network.

You know, Control Panel > Administrative > Services, do your own search on each.



If you set a service to MANUAL, this service won't run on startup, but whenever Windows needs to start this service it can easily start and use it.


Automatic starts the services at system logon

Manual starts a service as required or when called from an application (according to definition, but only some of the time in practice, depending on the service),

Disabled completely disables the service and prevents it and its dependencies from running.

Automatic (Delayed) starts the service a short while after the system has finished booting and initial busy operations, so that the system boots up faster






Windows 7 Service Configurations by Black Viper

Windows 7 Services that can be Safely Set to MANUAL - Tweaking with Vishal
 


Gil80

Senior Member
#3
According to your screenshots, several network (svchost.exe) services and Eset kernel (ekrn.exe) are using your disk.

You're having quite a number of services active, of course if you need them leave them on, but I would consider disabling some of those services, especially if this is your home pc without a network.

You know, Control Panel > Administrative > Services, do your own search on each.



If you set a service to MANUAL, this service won't run on startup, but whenever Windows needs to start this service it can easily start and use it.


Automatic starts the services at system logon

Manual starts a service as required or when called from an application (according to definition, but only some of the time in practice, depending on the service),

Disabled completely disables the service and prevents it and its dependencies from running.

Automatic (Delayed) starts the service a short while after the system has finished booting and initial busy operations, so that the system boots up faster






Windows 7 Service Configurations by Black Viper

Windows 7 Services that can be Safely Set to MANUAL - Tweaking with Vishal
Thanks.
I actually did disable many services or set them to manual according to black vipers website when I first installed Win7. For example I've disabled indexing and scheduled defrag. Anyway I set some services to manual according to Vishal but I don't think it will stop the HDD from grinding.

Do you have some other suggestions?
 


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RAK

Extraordinary Member
#4
That is remarkable. Here is a picture of mine.
But. Dont heed too much of Black Viper's suggestions. He has not kept up to date. Windows 7 operates services on an entirely different principal. Service (Microsoft's) are not using any resources now, until called for use, unless they are essentially required from startup.
You do have a lot of svchost items running, ut I presume you have quite a bit of local network activity, which could account for it. I am netwroked to three other computers, and have never exceeded about 8 svc's.
The services, which I can see you stopped for the test, I would normally have disabled . (Flexnet and Google update), so no problem there.
In my own personal tatse, I would see little purpose in running Windows Defender. You have good security from third party programs.
Fwiw, I only have my anti virus program as starting normally, under the startup Tab.

My own observation leads me to Adobe Photoshop?
Could you totally disable it, or, if it is in the startup Tab, uncheck it for the test?

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Gil80

Senior Member
#5
That is remarkable. Here is a picture of mine.
But. Dont heed too much of Black Viper's suggestions. He has not kept up to date. Windows 7 operates services on an entirely different principal. Service (Microsoft's) are not using any resources now, until called for use, unless they are essentially required from startup.
You do have a lot of svchost items running, ut I presume you have quite a bit of local network activity, which could account for it. I am netwroked to three other computers, and have never exceeded about 8 svc's.
The services, which I can see you stopped for the test, I would normally have disabled . (Flexnet and Google update), so no problem there.
In my own personal tatse, I would see little purpose in running Windows Defender. You have good security from third party programs.
Fwiw, I only have my anti virus program as starting normally, under the startup Tab.

My own observation leads me to Adobe Photoshop?
Could you totally disable it, or, if it is in the startup Tab, uncheck it for the test?

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I only have one computer in WLAN and i believe it was off when I took the screenshot.

So what do you suggest I should do? What items do I need to disable and from where?

I know a bit in windows but not like specialists.
 


RAK

Extraordinary Member
#6
Start by posting a picture of your Msconfig - startup tab. Let's see what you have running.
As I said, before going further, disable windows defender( Services) and photoshop. That alone might solve the problem.
 


#7
Hi all.
I'm running Win7 Ultimate 64bit.
This is my rig:
CPU: Intel E8500 @ 3.45GHz (OC)
RAM: OCZ Titanium 2x2GB @ 1152MHz FSB432x8.0
MB: Gigabyte EX38-DS4 (BIOS F3)
GPU: ATI Palit 4870 1GB Dual Edition

I have WD HDD 500GB Sata2 and WD HDD 160GB Sata1 for my videos and music only.
The main HDD has two partitions C (100GB) and E (400GB).

I believe my computer is quite good and fast. At least it used to be. From some reason in the past month the HDD is grinding like a maniac and it makes everything slow. After each restart I have to wait at least 5 minutes for it to relax so I can launch applications.

I haven't installed anything dubious and I regularly check for viruses with NOD32 and spywares with SpyBot and also use windows defender and firewall. I also use Ccleaner for registry and cache files cleanup.

Anymore info that can shed some light?

Thanks

Gil
what shows as running in device manager ?

personally I don't change the services settings in windows 7 as they won't affect performance ;)
 


Gil80

Senior Member
#8
Start by posting a picture of your Msconfig - startup tab. Let's see what you have running.
As I said, before going further, disable windows defender( Services) and photoshop. That alone might solve the problem.
The two microsoft lines are sidebar and sticky notes.
 


RAK

Extraordinary Member
#9
Untick rocket dock and the sidebar. If, after a reboot, there is no improvement, you can tick them again.
But in your process list, you were running many instances of photoshop features??
 


Gil80

Senior Member
#10
Untick rocket dock and the sidebar. If, after a reboot, there is no improvement, you can tick them again.
But in your process list, you were running many instances of photoshop features??
The rocketdock and sidebar didn't help.
I guess all the photoshop instances remain after I've closed photoshop
 


RAK

Extraordinary Member
#11
Lets try and look at the boot log, and see if it is hanging on any hardware or software. Open Msconfig - General and tick "Boot Log".
Reboot your computer and, in the windows directory, print out and post the boot file "NtbLog.txt"
Meanwhile, open up the resource monitor again. In Disl activity, click the top bar in "Total". This will bring the heavy users to the top. Can you see anything there which is showing outstanding activity?
 


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Gil80

Senior Member
#12
ntbtlog.txt

Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Version 6.1 (Build 7600)
4 18 2010 01:27:38.359
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And I'm now 4 minutes after boot and the HDD is still working like a maniac!

I don't understand why I see photoshop is being read on boot after looking at the HDD activity! I'm totally puzzled.
Here are two HDD activity screenshots. The first one is about 1 minute from boot and the second is 1 minute from the first screenshot:

1.



2.

 


RAK

Extraordinary Member
#13
Apart from some software differences, that looks pretty much the same as mine. Frankly, I have to hymbly say - I am lost! I can only go back to my original suggestion, that is you completely uninstall Photoshop, which has been known, under some circumstances, to produce some incompatibilities..

You do have an original install, and not an update? Otherwise, unless someone alse can help here, it is your most dreaded suggestion - reinstall.
 


Gil80

Senior Member
#14
Apart from some software differences, that looks pretty much the same as mine. Frankly, I have to hymbly say - I am lost! I can only go back to my original suggestion, that is you completely uninstall Photoshop, which has been known, under some circumstances, to produce some incompatibilities..

You do have an original install, and not an update? Otherwise, unless someone alse can help here, it is your most dreaded suggestion - reinstall.
I'm a photographer, I can't uninstall photoshop.

But can you see in image 2 that when I launched office outlook, the same exe file was running. MsMpeng.exe. it appears the same file is running when sidebar is loading as well.

But I don't understand why photoshop is being used right on system boot. I have nothing of photoshop in my startup/boot machine.
 


RAK

Extraordinary Member
#15
I am sorry. My suggestions, in rustration, are getting "fragmented" As I said, I am out of ideas. But, if I were sitting there, I would now, as a last resort and experiment:
1: Go to Windows - Prefetch and delete the entire contents. This will not harm the computer, but will enable it to start building the prefetch from start again.
2. For the experiment only. Open services.msc and diable superfetch
3. Disable System restore, again for the experiment. Perhaps, now you have stated your profession, it is being overworked in constantly recreating restore points.
 


Gil80

Senior Member
#16
I am sorry. My suggestions, in rustration, are getting "fragmented" As I said, I am out of ideas. But, if I were sitting there, I would now, as a last resort and experiment:
1: Go to Windows - Prefetch and delete the entire contents. This will not harm the computer, but will enable it to start building the prefetch from start again.
2. For the experiment only. Open services.msc and diable superfetch
3. Disable System restore, again for the experiment. Perhaps, now you have stated your profession, it is being overworked in constantly recreating restore points.
When I installed Win7 I set the restore point setting to 5% out of 100GB of partition C.
Superprefatch is disabled and I also deleted the contents of the prefetch folder. Should I also disable the regular prefetch in the registry?

I've also uninstalled NOD32 and I'm now using windows anti-virus. This is why:

NOD32 caused slow-down, AVAST hasn't - Windows 7 Forums

I"ll update on my next reboot
 


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