samsquared2
New Member
- Joined
- Aug 19, 2025
- Messages
- 22
- Thread Author
-
- #1
Once again, I need to re-install WSE 2016. I have the OS installed in a 120GB partition using the original drives (no reformatting, drive wiping, etc. from the previous setup), but don't know how to proceed from here. I have 2 SSDs attached now:
SSD1 - 1TB Disk 0 which currently contains the 120GB C: drive and another 813.83GB partition listed as "Healthy (Storage Spaces Protective Partition).
SSD2 - 1TB Disk 2 showing as offline with a space of 1740.87. This and the first drive were part of a storage pool
I also have another 1TB drive which I'd like to attach externally for additional storage but it seems a better idea to get what I have working before adding that to the mix.
Can I make what I have work or should I format SSD1 and 2 and start over?
SSD1 - 1TB Disk 0 which currently contains the 120GB C: drive and another 813.83GB partition listed as "Healthy (Storage Spaces Protective Partition).
SSD2 - 1TB Disk 2 showing as offline with a space of 1740.87. This and the first drive were part of a storage pool
I also have another 1TB drive which I'd like to attach externally for additional storage but it seems a better idea to get what I have working before adding that to the mix.
Can I make what I have work or should I format SSD1 and 2 and start over?
Last edited by a moderator:
- Joined
- Mar 14, 2023
- Messages
- 99,379
Yes — you can make this work, but the cleanest path is to wipe the old Storage Spaces metadata from SSD1 and SSD2 first and then rebuild the backup storage from scratch.
Right now both disks still contain remnants of the old Storage Spaces pool:
If not, then wiping the old pool metadata is the right move.
In Admin Command Prompt:
Identify the large 813.83 GB partition.
Then:
Why:
For a home WSE setup, I would strongly favor:
That gives you:
Yes, you should clear the old Storage Spaces data from both disks before proceeding.
Right now both disks still contain remnants of the old Storage Spaces pool:
- SSD1 has an
813.83 GB Storage Spaces Protective Partition - SSD2 shows a strange 1740.87 GB offline size, which is classic leftover pooled-disk metadata behavior
My recommendation
Best practice
- Keep the current OS install on C: if it's already good.
- Delete the old Storage Spaces remnants on both SSDs.
- Rebuild your backup storage cleanly using:
- the free space on SSD1
- all of SSD2
- Only after that, attach the external 1 TB drive.
Important warning
If there is any data left in the old storage pool that you still need, stop before wiping anything.If not, then wiping the old pool metadata is the right move.
What I would do
Option A — Recommended
- Keep the 120 GB
C:partition - Wipe only:
- the
813.83 GB Storage Spaces Protective Partitionon Disk 0 - all old metadata on Disk 2
- the
- Then create a new single backup target
Option B — Full clean restart
- Wipe both SSDs completely
- Reinstall WSE 2016 from scratch
- Recreate OS + backup storage from zero
GUI-first plan
Step 1: Make sure the OS install is healthy
Before touching storage:- Boot the server normally.
- Confirm:
C:is stable- Dashboard opens
- networking works
- Windows Updates/install status is normal
- If all of that is fine, proceed.
Step 2: Remove the old Storage Spaces parts
Because Disk Management is not good at clearing old pooled disks, use PowerShell or DiskPart.Safer approach
You want to clear only the non-OS areas.For Disk 0
You must not wipe the whole disk, because it contains:- System Reserved
C:
For Disk 2
You can usually wipe the whole disk.Step 3: Clean Disk 2 completely
Open Command Prompt as Administrator and run:
Code:
diskpart
list disk
select disk 2
attributes disk clear readonly
online disk
clean
convert gpt
exit
Expected result
- Disk 2 becomes a normal empty 1 TB disk
- In Disk Management it should show as Unallocated
- It should no longer show the weird 1740.87 GB value
Step 4: Remove the protective partition from Disk 0
Because Disk 0 contains the OS, be careful.In Admin Command Prompt:
Code:
diskpart
list disk
select disk 0
list partition
Then:
Code:
select partition <number>
delete partition override
exit
Expected result
- Disk 0 keeps:
- System Reserved
C:
- The 813.83 GB area becomes Unallocated
Step 5: Decide how to use the space
You then have two reasonable choices.Choice 1 — Simple and recommended
Use Disk 2 only for client backups.Why:
- Keeps OS disk and backup disk separate
- Easier recovery later
- Fewer Storage Spaces complications
Choice 2 — Larger pool
Use:- free space on Disk 0
- all of Disk 2
For a home WSE setup, I would strongly favor:
- Disk 0 = OS only
- Disk 2 = backups only
- External 1 TB = extra storage or secondary backup
Step 6: If you want the cleanest layout
After deleting the 813.83 GB partition on Disk 0, I would actually leave it unused for now unless you truly need it.That gives you:
- Disk 0
- System Reserved
C:- unused space
- Disk 2
- dedicated backup target
My practical recommendation
Given your history with this server, I would do this:- Keep current C: install
- Delete old Storage Spaces partition from Disk 0
- Fully clean Disk 2
- Use Disk 2 alone for Client Computer Backups
- Later attach the external 1 TB drive for:
- server folders
- exported backups
- secondary copy of critical files
When I would start over completely
I would only wipe both SSDs and reinstall from zero if:- the current WSE install is unstable
- Dashboard/services are broken
- connector install is failing
- backup configuration is badly corrupted
- you want a completely clean long-term setup
One correction to note
Your screenshot shows Disk 2 as offline and 1740.87 GB, which strongly suggests the system still sees pooled metadata, not a normal disk. That is not something I would try to "reuse as-is." It should be cleaned first.Bottom line
No, you do not need to wipe everything and start over.Yes, you should clear the old Storage Spaces data from both disks before proceeding.
Best path:
- Keep
C: - Delete the protective partition on Disk 0
- Clean Disk 2 fully
- Use Disk 2 as your backup disk
- Add the external drive only after the server is stable
- identifying the correct partition number on Disk 0
- cleaning Disk 2 safely
- then setting up client backups in WSE 2016 using GUI only.
samsquared2
New Member
- Joined
- Aug 19, 2025
- Messages
- 22
- Thread Author
-
- #3
I think I need to redo the install from scratch. Even though the OS appears to be fine and is receiving Windows updates:
1. The install did not ask me where to place the OS or what size the partition size should be.
2. The Windows Server Essentials Email service is disabled which is the state I put it in after the previous install because it wouldn't start (WSE Email service won't start)
Pease send instructions for starting from scratch.
- Joined
- Mar 14, 2023
- Messages
- 99,379
If you want a truly clean rebuild, I agree: start from scratch.
Because you’ve had repeated Storage Spaces remnants and the old disabled Email service carried forward, a full wipe is the best way to avoid dragging old configuration back in.
If you want a smaller OS partition, do this before clicking Next:
That value is in MB.
Setup will also create the small system partitions automatically.
If you do not do this, Windows will usually take the whole disk for the OS.
If you are unsure, stop and verify size carefully.
That usually means one of these happened:
If you want, I can next give you:
Because you’ve had repeated Storage Spaces remnants and the old disabled Email service carried forward, a full wipe is the best way to avoid dragging old configuration back in.
Before you begin
Back up anything you need
- Copy off any files you want to keep from the server.
- Make sure you have:
- your WSE 2016 install media
- product key
- network settings if you use a static IP
- any notes about users, shares, and backup settings
Disconnect anything not needed
For the cleanest install:- Leave connected only:
- SSD1
- keyboard/mouse/monitor
- network
- Disconnect SSD2
- Do not attach the external 1 TB drive yet
Clean install from scratch
Part 1: Wipe SSD1 completely and install WSE 2016
Step 1: Boot from the WSE 2016 installer
- Boot from the Windows Server Essentials 2016 USB/DVD.
- Proceed until you reach the disk selection screen.
Step 2: Delete all partitions on SSD1
At the screen asking Where do you want to install Windows?- Select each partition on SSD1 / Disk 0
- Click Delete
- Repeat until the entire disk shows as Unallocated Space
- System Reserved
- old
C: - old Storage Spaces partition
- anything else on that disk
Step 3: Install to the unallocated disk
- Select the unallocated space on SSD1.
- Click Next
Important note about partition size
WSE/Windows Server setup may not ask you what size to makeC: during install. That is normal if you install directly to unallocated space.If you want a smaller OS partition, do this before clicking Next:
- Click New
- Enter the size you want for the OS partition
122880That value is in MB.
Setup will also create the small system partitions automatically.
If you do not do this, Windows will usually take the whole disk for the OS.
Step 4: Finish installation
- Let Setup complete.
- Complete first boot configuration.
- Install all Windows Updates.
- Confirm the server is stable before reconnecting other drives.
Part 2: Prepare SSD2 after the OS is fully installed
Only after the OS install is complete and working:- Shut down the server.
- Reconnect SSD2
- Boot into Windows
Step 5: Clean SSD2 completely
Open Command Prompt as Administrator and run:
Code:
diskpart
list disk
select disk 1
clean
convert gpt
exit
Warning
Make sure the disk number is actually SSD2 before usingclean.If you are unsure, stop and verify size carefully.
Part 3: Decide on storage layout
My recommendation
Keep it simple this time:- SSD1 = OS only
- SSD2 = client backups
- External 1 TB = extra storage later
Why this is better
- easier recovery
- less Storage Spaces confusion
- less risk of wiping the OS disk later
- simpler troubleshooting
Part 4: Configure client backup storage
Once SSD2 is clean and visible:- Open Disk Management
- Confirm SSD2 appears as a normal unallocated 1 TB disk
- Let WSE use that disk for backup storage, or create a normal NTFS volume first depending on how you want to manage it
Part 5: About the Email service
Since that was broken in the previous install, I would strongly suggest:- Do not spend time on email during initial install
- Get these working first:
- OS
- Dashboard
- users
- shares
- client connector
- client backups
- Only after the server is stable, revisit outbound email
Recommended install order
- Install WSE 2016 cleanly on SSD1 only
- Run Windows Update fully
- Confirm Dashboard works
- Create users/shares
- Reconnect and clean SSD2
- Configure backup storage
- Test one client backup
- Add external 1 TB later
- Revisit email last
One important detail
You said the previous install did not ask where to place the OS or what size the partition should be.That usually means one of these happened:
- you used an automated/Essentials flow that accepted defaults
- the disk still had existing partitions and Setup reused them
- you didn’t manually click New on unallocated space
- delete every partition on SSD1
- then create the OS partition size manually before continuing
Exact summary
What to disconnect
- SSD2
- external 1 TB drive
What to wipe
- all partitions on SSD1 during Setup
- all of SSD2 after install
What to build
- SSD1: fresh OS install
- SSD2: backup storage only
If you want, I can next give you:
- a very short checklist to print and follow during install, or
- the exact post-install steps for cleaning SSD2 and setting up client backups.
samsquared2
New Member
- Joined
- Aug 19, 2025
- Messages
- 22
- Thread Author
-
- #5
The first install went to SSD1 (SATA 0) and because it did not ask where to place the install, I think that I should put SSD2 on SATA 0 to keep that from happening again. What do you think?
- Joined
- Mar 14, 2023
- Messages
- 99,379
I would not swap SSD2 onto SATA 0 just to force the installer.
The better fix is simpler:
The better fix is simpler:
Recommendation
- Leave only the target install drive connected
- Boot from the installer
- At the Where do you want to install Windows? screen:
- delete all partitions on that one SSD
- create the partition size you want
- install there
Why I would avoid swapping ports unless necessary
- SATA port number by itself is not the real problem
- The real problem is usually:
- multiple disks attached during install
- leftover partitions/metadata
- clicking through setup defaults too quickly
- Moving drives around can add confusion later when you’re trying to identify disks
Best practice for your reinstall
Before installing
- Disconnect SSD2
- Disconnect the external 1 TB
- Leave connected only:
- SSD1 on its current port
- installer USB/DVD
- keyboard/mouse/monitor/network
During setup
- When you reach disk selection, confirm there is only one disk
- Delete all partitions on that disk
- Click New
- Enter the size for the OS partition if you want
C:limited to about 120 GB - Select that new partition and install
- you may be booting a preconfigured/unattended install source
- or using an Essentials-specific install path that auto-partitions
My answer
- No, I would not move SSD2 to SATA 0 just for this
- Yes, I would disconnect every other storage device and install with only SSD1 attached
One exception
If your BIOS/UEFI or motherboard clearly treats SATA 0 specially and you’ve seen odd behavior before, then moving the intended OS disk to SATA 0 is not harmful — but it should be treated as optional, not necessary.Safest path
- Keep SSD1 as the install target
- Disconnect all other drives
- Wipe SSD1 completely during setup
- Install
- Reconnect SSD2 only after Windows is fully installed
samsquared2
New Member
- Joined
- Aug 19, 2025
- Messages
- 22
- Thread Author
-
- #7
I think I need to do something to SSD1 before continuing the install. I disconnected SSD2 but when the install gets to the point of selecting a disk, the options are
"Drive 0 Partition 1: System Reserved" and "Driven 0 Partition 2", which has a size of 117.2GB. If I remove that and try to create a new partition, the maximum size available is 120GB which is the size of the previous partition. I see no reason to proceed with the install.
Do I need to remove SSD1, attach it externally to another PC, and remove all partitions?
"Drive 0 Partition 1: System Reserved" and "Driven 0 Partition 2", which has a size of 117.2GB. If I remove that and try to create a new partition, the maximum size available is 120GB which is the size of the previous partition. I see no reason to proceed with the install.
Do I need to remove SSD1, attach it externally to another PC, and remove all partitions?
- Joined
- Mar 14, 2023
- Messages
- 99,379
No — you do not need to remove SSD1 and attach it to another PC.
What you need is to wipe SSD1 completely from the Windows Setup screen so Setup sees the whole 1 TB as unallocated. Right now, Setup is only seeing the old 120 GB OS partition area, which means the rest of the disk is still tied up in old partition/storage metadata.
That opens a Command Prompt.
You should see your SSD as Disk 0 around 931 GB.
This removes all partitions and old metadata from SSD1.
That is about 120 GB in MB.
Windows will create:
That is exactly what you want here if you are truly reinstalling from scratch.
If
Very unlikely, but if after
If needed, I can help interpret that output.
Then click Refresh.
If you want, reply with what
What you need is to wipe SSD1 completely from the Windows Setup screen so Setup sees the whole 1 TB as unallocated. Right now, Setup is only seeing the old 120 GB OS partition area, which means the rest of the disk is still tied up in old partition/storage metadata.
What should be happening
On a clean 1 TB SSD, you should eventually see something like:- Drive 0 Unallocated Space
- roughly 931 GB
- 500 MB System Reserved
- 117.2 GB Primary
Best fix: use DiskPart from inside Setup
Do this from the installer itself.Step 1: Open Command Prompt in Setup
At the disk selection screen, press:Shift + F10That opens a Command Prompt.
Step 2: Run DiskPart
Type:
Code:
diskpart
list disk
Step 3: Select the disk
select disk 0Step 4: Wipe the partition table completely
cleanThis removes all partitions and old metadata from SSD1.
Step 5: Convert to GPT
Code:
convert gpt
exit
exit
Step 6: Refresh Setup
Back at the install screen:- Click Refresh
- You should now see:
- Drive 0 Unallocated Space
- around 931 GB
If you want a 120 GB OS partition
Once the disk shows as all unallocated:- Select the unallocated space
- Click New
- Enter:
122880That is about 120 GB in MB.
Windows will create:
- small system partitions
- the main OS partition
Why this is better than using another PC
- faster
- cleaner
- same result
- avoids USB enclosure issues
- avoids accidentally initializing the disk differently on another machine
Important warning
clean erases the disk layout completely.That is exactly what you want here if you are truly reinstalling from scratch.
Double-check before running it
Make sure:- SSD2 is disconnected
- only the install target SSD is attached internally
list diskshows only the installer media and the 1 TB SSD
list disk and compare the sizes.If clean still doesn’t fix it
Very unlikely, but if after clean + Refresh the installer still only shows 120 GB:- go back into DiskPart
- run:
Code:
select disk 0
detail disk
list partition
Exact commands to use
Code:
diskpart
list disk
select disk 0
clean
convert gpt
exit
exit
Expected result
You should see approximately:- Drive 0 Unallocated Space
- 931.5 GB
If you want, reply with what
list disk shows before you run clean, and I’ll confirm you’re selecting the correct disk.datawizard0103
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Feb 14, 2024
- Messages
- 208
You’re running into leftover Storage Spaces metadata, which Disk Management won’t fully clean up on its own and that’s why things look weird. Before you wipe everything, try this: open PowerShell as admin and run Get-StoragePool. If the old pool still shows up, delete it from there using Remove-StoragePool. If it doesn’t, then use diskpart, run list disk, then select disk 2, then clean to fully strip that hidden config off SSD2. Do the same for the large protective partition on SSD1 if you want to reclaim it. Once both drives are clean, bring Disk 2 online and reinitialize it in Disk Management. That usually fixes the mismatch without needing a full OS reinstall and keeps your current C intact.Once again, I need to re-install WSE 2016. I have the OS installed in a 120GB partition using the original drives (no reformatting, drive wiping, etc. from the previous setup), but don't know how to proceed from here. I have 2 SSDs attached now:
SSD1 - 1TB Disk 0 which currently contains the 120GB C: drive and another 813.83GB partition listed as "Healthy (Storage Spaces Protective Partition).
SSD2 - 1TB Disk 2 showing as offline with a space of 1740.87. This and the first drive were part of a storage pool
I also have another 1TB drive which I'd like to attach externally for additional storage but it seems a better idea to get what I have working before adding that to the mix.
Can I make what I have work or should I format SSD1 and 2 and start over?
View attachment 131729
Similar threads
- Solved
- Replies
- 9
- Views
- 625
- Solved
- Replies
- 3
- Views
- 736
- Solved
- Replies
- 3
- Views
- 79
- Solved
- Replies
- 17
- Views
- 402
- Replies
- 0
- Views
- 327