David Pakman opens this segment of his show discussing the unique challenges faced by diplomatic interpreters. He begins with a brief throwback to the 2013 Nelson Mandela memorial service, playing a clip at 0:36 showing the infamous fake sign language interpreter gesturing on stage alongside Cyril Ramaphosa. He then segues into the main story regarding Japanese translators, specifically citing Chikako Tsuruta, who explained that interpreters covering Donald Trump often avoid translating his speeches verbatim. Because of Trump's repetitive vocabulary, incomplete sentences, and idiosyncratic phrasing, translators feared that direct renditions would make them look incompetent to Japanese leaders like Shinzo Abe. His co-host Pat joins the conversation around 2:24 to highlight specific idioms and phrasing that defy straightforward translation, referencing Trump's off-the-cuff remarks about uranium being nuclear weapons and other things. They discuss how interpreters feel forced to smooth out the phrasing just so the translated text sounds like intelligible commentary rather than nonsense. The segment concludes around 3:18 before transitioning into a promotional segment for Warby Parker eyewear. It is a fascinating look into the ethics and practicalities of translation when dealing with unconventional political figures. The dilemma interpreters face between faithful word-for-word accuracy and preserving their own professional credibility highlights how much language style influences international diplomacy.