I see, except the last part with JMicron or Intel, the thing about my SSD is that it gets shipped with latest firmware Samsung 830 128GB, About JMicron or Intel or Marvel i dunno, Specs say it's a 3-core samsung unit or something not Marvell.Remove all illegal software
Stop overclocking to see if that stops the BSOD's. DO NOT overclock until the system is stable - our troubleshooting relies on stock system settings.
Update firmware on the SSD.
Get the latest storage controller drivers for your motherboard from the storage controller manufacturer (not from Asus) - most likely Intel and either JMicron or Marvell. DO NOT use the Marvell controller with your SSD - we've seen issues with them.
Start with these free diagnostics: Link Removed - Invalid URL
What exactly should i download? Hwmonitor? :S, lotsa programs on that linkRemove all illegal software
Stop overclocking to see if that stops the BSOD's. DO NOT overclock until the system is stable - our troubleshooting relies on stock system settings.
Update firmware on the SSD.
Get the latest storage controller drivers for your motherboard from the storage controller manufacturer (not from Asus) - most likely Intel and either JMicron or Marvell. DO NOT use the Marvell controller with your SSD - we've seen issues with them.
Start with these free diagnostics: Link Removed - Invalid URL
I suggest starting all troubleshooting with the following diagnostic tests
Start at this sentence:
And follow the instructions line-by-line until you reach the end.
I was unable to find a Asus Z77 V-Pro motherboard listed at the Asus website.
The Asus P8Z77 boards have Intel and ASMedia controllers.
Read the manual to see which your drives are connected to.
But update both (I prefer using the Intel myself) to the latest version:
- The Intel from http://downloadcenter.intel.com
- The ASMedia from ASMedia Technology Inc. ???? (but you have to create and account - and I haven't tried that) - or update it from Asus' support website for your mobo.
As for the SSD shipping with the latest firmware - I have to wonder as these things spend a couple of months or more being shipped around the world and placed in different warehouses. I do know that motherboards spend long enough on the warehouse shelves that the CMOS batteries can go dead.
081712-8049-01.log
Debug session time: Fri Aug 17 20:38:36.953 2012 (UTC + 2:00)System Uptime: 0 days 16:28:16.734IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (a)Arg1: fffffc000368edbb, memory referencedArg2: 0000000000000002, IRQLArg3: 0000000000000000, bitfield :Arg4: fffff80002cdb959, address which referenced memoryIMAGE_NAME: memory_corruptionPROCESS_NAME: League of LegeDEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULTFAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xA_nt!MiUnlinkPageFromLockedList+169fffff880`08494038 fffff800`02cca769 : 00000000`0000000a fffffc00`0368edbb 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeBugCheckExfffff880`08494040 fffff800`02cc93e0 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`180fd500 fffffa80`180fd580 fffffa80`00015570 : nt!KiBugCheckDispatch+0x69fffff880`08494180 fffff800`02cdb959 : 4eb00002`3a00d921 00000000`00000005 fffff800`02efdd48 00000000`00000005 : nt!KiPageFault+0x260fffff880`08494310 fffff800`02ce08b5 : fffff6fc`c00eb3e8 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`00015570 fffffa80`056895f0 : nt!MiUnlinkPageFromLockedList+0x169fffff880`08494390 fffff800`02cb94ce : fffff980`1d67c000 00000000`00002000 fffff880`00000000 fffffa80`11a1bb50 : nt!MmCheckCachedPageStates+0x295fffff880`08494540 fffff800`02fb0a00 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`028bceaa fffffa80`0ca6f070 00000000`33b40010 : nt!CcFetchDataForRead+0x10efffff880`084945a0 fffff880`016aaf08 : fffff880`00000000 00000000`00000005 fffffa80`00003156 fffffa80`00001001 : nt!CcCopyRead+0x180fffff880`08494660 fffff880`01488098 : fffffa80`0ca6f070 fffffa80`11a1bae8 fffffa80`1655c1f8 fffffa80`0ca6f001 : Ntfs!NtfsCopyReadA+0x1a8fffff880`08494840 fffff880`0148b8ba : fffff880`08494910 00000000`33b40003 00000000`33b40000 fffffa80`0ca6f000 : fltmgr!FltpPerformFastIoCall+0x88fffff880`084948a0 fffff880`014a9630 : fffffa80`0ca6f070 00000000`00000000 fffff880`08494a00 00000000`00001000 : fltmgr!FltpPassThroughFastIo+0xdafffff880`084948e0 fffff800`02fb0539 : fffffa80`0ca6f070 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`0c7b4400 fffffa80`0ca6f070 : fltmgr!FltpFastIoRead+0x1d0fffff880`08494980 fffff800`02cca453 : 00000000`73902450 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!NtReadFile+0x417fffff880`08494a70 00000000`73902e09 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x13 00000000`1eb9f0f8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x73902e09
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Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\081812-7940-01.dmp]
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows 7 Kernel Version [B]7601 [/B](Service Pack 1) MP (8 procs) Free x64
Built by: [B]7601[/B].17835.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030
System Uptime:[B]0 days 3:49:49.598[/B]
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
BugCheck Code: [B]BugCheck 1A, {403, fffff680001f4b70, 9a300000007b486f, fffff686001f4b70}[/B]
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for mssmbios.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for mssmbios.sys
Probably caused by :[B]ntoskrnl.exe ( nt+7f1c0 )[/B]
BugCheck Info: [B]MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)[/B]
BUGCHECK_STR: 0x1a_403
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
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intelppm.sys Mon Jul 13 19:19:25 2009 (4A5BC0FD)
amdxata.sys Fri Mar 19 12:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA)
ICCWDT.sys Wed Aug 18 04:27:45 2010 (4C6B9981)
asmtxhci.sys Wed Nov 2 23:00:22 2011 (4EB203C6)
asmthub3.sys Wed Nov 2 23:00:32 2011 (4EB203D0)
HECIx64.sys Wed Nov 9 19:52:25 2011 (4EBB2049)
iaStor.sys Tue Nov 29 22:39:19 2011 (4ED5A567)
IntcDAud.sys Tue Dec 6 06:23:07 2011 (4EDDFB1B)
asahci64.sys Thu Jan 5 00:08:19 2012 (4F053043)
iusb3hub.sys Thu Jan 5 06:54:43 2012 (4F058F83)
iusb3xhc.sys Thu Jan 5 06:54:45 2012 (4F058F85)
iusb3hcs.sys Thu Jan 5 06:56:40 2012 (4F058FF8)
RTKVHD64.sys Tue Feb 14 05:55:35 2012 (4F3A3DA7)
MpFilter.sys Fri Mar 9 06:05:26 2012 (4F59E3F6)
e1c62x64.sys Thu Mar 15 23:57:28 2012 (4F62BA28)
igdkmd64.sys Mon May 21 15:04:11 2012 (4FBA91AB)
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Ran yesterday with 1 stick, no BSOD, then 2sticks now and still no BSOD, probably 1 stick is damaged and i need to RMA, or can BSOD happen because i have too much RAM or the system won't handle it or related? or Voltage...etc?The majority of BSOD's are memory related - as those are the operations that can cause physical damage to the system (and so Windows "fails fast" in order to save the hardware)
Have you removed all illegal software?
Have you stopped overclocking (if you were overclocking)
Have you run the hardware diagnostics that I suggested? If so, what were the results?
Have you updated the storage controller drivers as I suggested?
If you search the stuff that you posted in the previous post, the things before the ! are drivers. They are:
nt - nt.dll
Ntfs - Ntfs.sys
fltmgr - fltmgr.sys
The error name - IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL - refers to an operation (by a driver) in virtual memory. It's the operation that was bad - not necessarily the memory. Your virtual memory is stored both in your RAM and in the pagefile on your hard drive - hence the request for you to run hardware diagnostics on your RAM and hard drive. And the involvement of ntfs.sys and fltmgr.sys is suggestive of a problem that occurred with the virtual memory that's associated with your pagefile on your hard drive.
But memory errors can be (and are most often) errors by 3rd party drivers - and we frequently see these in associate with SSD's. The issue with SSD's is that they are new technology, so all the bugs haven't been worked out yet - hence the request to update the firmware. We frequently see memory issues with systems having SSD problems.
And, the SSD's are operated by the storage controller drivers - which aren't the latest technology available. The storage controller manufacturer's are working to upgrade their products and have, in the last 6 months, released updates that help with the management of SSD's. Your storage controller drivers date from 2011 - so they are highly suspect in this situation.
If you're still getting BSOD's once you've done all the stuff that I've suggested - then please run Driver Verifier according to these instructions: Driver Verifier Settings Running it earlier won't help as it's likely to pickup on the things that I've asked you to do.
Analysis:The following is for information purposes only.Code:[FONT=lucida console]**************************Fri Aug 17 18:28:42.817 2012 (UTC - 4:00)************************** Loading Dump File [C:\Users\John\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\081812-7940-01.dmp] *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe Windows 7 Kernel Version [B]7601 [/B](Service Pack 1) MP (8 procs) Free x64 Built by: [B]7601[/B].17835.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030 System Uptime:[B]0 days 3:49:49.598[/B] *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe BugCheck Code: [B]BugCheck 1A, {403, fffff680001f4b70, 9a300000007b486f, fffff686001f4b70}[/B] *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for mssmbios.sys *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for mssmbios.sys Probably caused by :[B]ntoskrnl.exe ( nt+7f1c0 )[/B] BugCheck Info: [B]MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)[/B] BUGCHECK_STR: 0x1a_403 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨`` [/FONT]
3rd Party Drivers:The following is for information purposes only. Any drivers in red should be updated.http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=intelppm.sysCode:[FONT=lucida console]**************************Fri Aug 17 18:28:42.817 2012 (UTC - 4:00)************************** intelppm.sys Mon Jul 13 19:19:25 2009 (4A5BC0FD) amdxata.sys Fri Mar 19 12:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA) ICCWDT.sys Wed Aug 18 04:27:45 2010 (4C6B9981) asmtxhci.sys Wed Nov 2 23:00:22 2011 (4EB203C6) asmthub3.sys Wed Nov 2 23:00:32 2011 (4EB203D0) HECIx64.sys Wed Nov 9 19:52:25 2011 (4EBB2049) iaStor.sys Tue Nov 29 22:39:19 2011 (4ED5A567) IntcDAud.sys Tue Dec 6 06:23:07 2011 (4EDDFB1B) asahci64.sys Thu Jan 5 00:08:19 2012 (4F053043) iusb3hub.sys Thu Jan 5 06:54:43 2012 (4F058F83) iusb3xhc.sys Thu Jan 5 06:54:45 2012 (4F058F85) iusb3hcs.sys Thu Jan 5 06:56:40 2012 (4F058FF8) RTKVHD64.sys Tue Feb 14 05:55:35 2012 (4F3A3DA7) MpFilter.sys Fri Mar 9 06:05:26 2012 (4F59E3F6) e1c62x64.sys Thu Mar 15 23:57:28 2012 (4F62BA28) igdkmd64.sys Mon May 21 15:04:11 2012 (4FBA91AB) [/FONT]
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=amdxata.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ICCWDT.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=asmtxhci.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=asmthub3.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=HECIx64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iaStor.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=IntcDAud.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=asahci64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iusb3hub.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iusb3xhc.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iusb3hcs.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=MpFilter.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=e1c62x64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=igdkmd64.sys
I guess it's bad Stick/DIMM, i'm on my 3rd stick now, ran it 5hours without a BSOD, usually it crashes within max 3 missions on SC2, already mailed my manufacterer, I guess the last stick is damaged, since everything else is eliminated.It can happen either because one or more of the sticks are bad - or because one or more of the slots are bad.
It's most likely a bad stick - but it can be a bad motherboard.
The test for this is from Step 6 onward at this link: Link Removed - Invalid URL
Too much RAM? I suspect so - but it'd have to be outside of the specs of your motherboard, and you have a fairly new mobo that's likely to be able to use a lot of RAM. Check the mobo manual (or go to RAM Memory Upgrade: Dell, Mac, Apple, HP, Compaq. USB drives, SSD at Crucial.com and use their memory configurator)
Settings being wrong - yes that could cause problems. I'd suspect small differences in voltage, timing, etc wouldn't cause it tho' - you'd have to be way off (and out of spec of the RAM) in order for it to cause those sort of problems. Overclocking can also cause this - it's the most common reason IMO.
If it's a bad Mobo will it even startup with 1RAM or run a whole day? as far i've run all sticks, no crash, but still does crash when all 4 sticks are plugged in after...3hours?I'm a fan of Asus mobo's and have used them in every build except one over the last 15 years.
There are some boards with glitches - but I don't recall your board being one of them. (The P5 and P4 series have memory issues which can be "fixed" by manually setting timings/settings/voltages in the BIOS - using the RAM manufacturer's recommendations).
As for "bad" motherboard, I was referring to a broken slot. This usually happens when pressing or wiggling the RAM sticks too vigorously - causing the solder joints to break.