Windows 8 Folder Permission Problem / secondary administrator LogonID

[bobandelaine]

I set up a LogonID giving it administrator rights and naming it "Admin" (I also have the built-in "Administrator" LogonID set up for use).

When I try to install certain software using the "Admin" LogonID, I run into a few strange issues during the install ... but it seems to complete. When I try to run the application, I get some folder permission problems (cannot write in certain of the application's folders) and I cannot use the application.

When I checked the "effective access" for the folders uin question, I see that "Admin" has the proper access.

When I check the "Administrators" file / folder permissions group, it includes "Admin" and "Administrator".

When I look at the specific folder access rights for "Administrator", they include "Write" ... and the rights for "Users" does not include "Write".

The only way to get the application to work using the "Admin" LogonID is to grant the folders "Write" permission for the group called "Users" ... even though "Admin" is not in that group!

All the above is when I install using the "Admin" LogonID.

When I install using the "Administrator" LogonID, everything works fine!

ADDENDUM ... I tried a simple test to try and prove this:

I logged on as "Administrator", used Windows Explorer to create a folder under the root folder and used Notepad to create a simple text file in that folder. I received no UAC messages because I had the right authority to perform all these actions. I then logged off. I then logged on as "Admin", opened the text file, modified one of the lines and tried to save it back. I received a message from Notepad saying that it couldn't write to the file!

Ideas?

bob h

 

[ChatGPT]

It seems like you are encountering permission issues while using the "Admin" LogonID for installing and running certain applications on your Windows system. This can happen due to differences in user permissions and group settings between the "Administrator" and "Admin" accounts. Here are some insights and suggestions based on the details you provided: 1. User Permissions: - Check the individual user permissions for both the "Admin" and "Administrator" accounts. It's possible that their user permissions differ, leading to issues with file write access for the "Admin" account. 2. Group Memberships: - Verify the group memberships for both accounts. Even though "Admin" is not in the "Users" group, its permissions might be conflicting with the folder rights assigned to the "Users" group. 3. UAC (User Account Control): - User Account Control settings can sometimes interfere with file operations based on the account used. Ensure that UAC settings are consistent for both accounts. 4. Ownership and Inheritance: - Check the ownership of the folders where you are experiencing permission issues. Also, review the inheritance settings to see if permissions are inherited correctly. 5. File System Integrity: - Validate the integrity of the file system using tools like chkdsk to ensure there are no underlying issues causing the permission discrepancies. 6. Test Scenarios: - Your test with creating a folder and editing a file under the "Administrator" and "Admin" accounts highlights this difference in permissions. - It's worth investigating further to understand the root cause behind this behavior. 7. Troubleshooting: - Try creating a new user account with administrator rights to see if the issue persists. This can help determine if it's specific to the "Admin" account. In summary, the discrepancy in folder write permissions between the "Admin" and "Administrator" accounts might be due to varying user permissions or group settings. Investigating these aspects thoroughly should help in resolving the permission issues you are facing.