Josephur--thanks for that great information. Looks like I will be avoiding the Stream as I have now seen others with similar input as yours. I would not call myself an avid PS user. I do a lot of hobby photo stuff but find it works fine for me with my current system - It is a 7 year old Dell 2305 all in one. It runs PS fine on an AMD Athlon II x2 250U, 1.60. GHz, with 4 GB ram. I looked at the spec for the refurbished laptop that you mention and it sounds like a good fit but if I could find a comparable system as the 2305 spec (ram etc), I would go with new. Also, it doesn't have a dvd/cd drive so I would have to buy an external drive. I don't know how I would load all of my software without such a drive. I see them for about $20. Since I would only be using it to load software, guess I don't have to spend a lot. True? From what I have read, most people seem to have pretty good experiences with refurbished but ya never know, unfortunately. Thanks again for your thoughts.