Windows 7 64-bit BSOD after resuming from sleep, error F4

Discussion in 'Windows 7 Blue Screen of Death (BSOD)' started by sh4ne, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. sh4ne

    sh4ne New Member

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    Hey there,

    After upgrading to a larger hard drive, I have been unable to use the sleep function without getting a BSOD after waking it up. My laptop goes to sleep fine, but when resuming, it shows the log-on screen for a moment before showing a BSOD, error code 0x0.....F4 . I never had a this problem with my old hard drive. I have tried a hard disk check, RAM check, updated drivers, changed sleep/power settings, etc. Hibernate works fine, but that is not nearly as handy when you have to quickly resume working!

    I attached my system info, event log, and most recent minidump file, HOWEVER, these BSODs do NOT show up in my minidump folder (I have double checked the settings for minidumps) so that is likely a one-time BSOD unrelated to this problem. Not sure why these do not show up -- perhaps because it occurs coming out of the sleep mode?

    Thank you for your time,
    Shane
     

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  2. cybercore

    cybercore New Member

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    Welcome to the forums. : )

    Your crash was caused by Realtek USB Mass Storage Driver for Vista x64, which you need to update - 03 14:57:25 2008.

    Hold on I'll take a deeper look now ...
     
  3. TorrentG

    TorrentG Banned

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    Hello and welcome.

    RTSTOR64.SYS is your issue. It's a driver for the Realtek card reader you have. You need to update it to the latest version available:

    RTSTOR64 RTSTOR64.SYS Thu Jan 03 07:57:25 2008

    Search the device manager for the exact type of Realtek reader you have and then search for the updated driver on the left side of this link:

    Realtek

    If you can't seem to find it, then download from your laptop manufacturer's website.

    You'll also want to navigate to C:\Windows\System32\drivers and delete this very old one:

    Afc Afc.sys Wed Jul 12 01:48:20 2006

    Reboot and run Ccleaner to clean the registry.

    Update your PenTablet driver too from its manufacturer's site. It's way old:

    PTSimBus PTSimBus.sys Thu Jun 07 05:15:34 2007 (
     
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  4. cybercore

    cybercore New Member

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    100710-40263-01.dmp
    BugCheck 1000007E, {ffffffffc0000005,
    Probably caused by : RTSTOR64.SYS ( RTSTOR64+b0c9 )


    Your crash was caused by Realtek USB Mass Storage Driver which is for Vista x64 timestamp 2008 and it is not well compatible with 7. Update this driver and you should be OK.




    Update the following drivers:

    RTSTOR64.SYS Thu Jan 03 14:57:25 2008
    Realtek USB Mass Storage Driver

    Afc.sys Wed Jul 12 08:48:20 2006
    Arcsoft

    ManyCam_x64.sys Thu Mar 13 09:46:01 2008
    ManyCam

    tdrpm251.sys Fri Jul 31 16:59:53 2009
    Acronis

    speedfan.sys Sun Sep 24 16:26:48 2006
    Speedfan

    SCDEmu.SYS Mon Jul 27 20:53:10 2009
    PowerISO

    LHidFilt.Sys Wed Jun 17 19:49:39 2009
    Logitech SetPoint


    XAudio64.sys Wed Apr 29 21:21:07 2009
    CAX_DPV.sys Fri Feb 13 23:24:50 2009
    Conexant SoftK56 Modem






    If crashes persist, uninstll Avast and replace it with MSE:

    avast! Uninstall Utility

    http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/






    Code:
    Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.11.0001.404 AMD64
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    
    Loading Dump File [F:\a\Minidump\D M P\100710-40263-01.dmp]
    Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available
    
    Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
    Executable search path is: 
    Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (2 procs) Free x64
    Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
    Built by: 7600.16617.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100618-1621
    Machine Name:
    Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02e18000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`03055e50
    Debug session time: Thu Oct  7 16:16:24.317 2010 (GMT-5)
    System Uptime: 2 days 9:30:22.377
    Loading Kernel Symbols
    ...............................................................
    ................................................................
    .............................................................
    Loading User Symbols
    Loading unloaded module list
    .......................................
    Unable to load image RTSTOR64.SYS, Win32 error 0n2
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for RTSTOR64.SYS
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for RTSTOR64.SYS
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    
    BugCheck 1000007E, {ffffffffc0000005, fffff8800237c0c9, fffff880053dfa28, fffff880053df290}
    
    Probably caused by : RTSTOR64.SYS ( RTSTOR64+b0c9 )
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    0: kd> !analyze -v
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    
    SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M (1000007e)
    This is a very common bugcheck.  Usually the exception address pinpoints
    the driver/function that caused the problem.  Always note this address
    as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
    Some common problems are exception code 0x80000003.  This means a hard
    coded breakpoint or assertion was hit, but this system was booted
    /NODEBUG.  This is not supposed to happen as developers should never have
    hardcoded breakpoints in retail code, but ...
    If this happens, make sure a debugger gets connected, and the
    system is booted /DEBUG.  This will let us see why this breakpoint is
    happening.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: ffffffffc0000005, The exception code that was not handled
    Arg2: fffff8800237c0c9, The address that the exception occurred at
    Arg3: fffff880053dfa28, Exception Record Address
    Arg4: fffff880053df290, Context Record Address
    
    Debugging Details:
    ------------------
    
    
    EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - <Unable to get error code text>
    
    FAULTING_IP: 
    RTSTOR64+b0c9
    fffff880`0237c0c9 4c8b6840        mov     r13,qword ptr [rax+40h]
    
    EXCEPTION_RECORD:  fffff880053dfa28 -- (.exr 0xfffff880053dfa28)
    ExceptionAddress: fffff8800237c0c9 (RTSTOR64+0x000000000000b0c9)
       ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
      ExceptionFlags: 00000000
    NumberParameters: 2
       Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
       Parameter[1]: 0000000000000040
    Attempt to read from address 0000000000000040
    
    CONTEXT:  fffff880053df290 -- (.cxr 0xfffff880053df290)
    rax=0000000000000000 rbx=00000000c0000013 rcx=00000000010f0101
    rdx=fffffa8009e51b81 rsi=fffffa800570d5e0 rdi=fffffa8004476010
    rip=fffff8800237c0c9 rsp=fffff880053dfc60 rbp=fffffa8005c4db60
     r8=0000000000000001  r9=0000000000000100 r10=fffff80003003ca0
    r11=fffffa800a79d950 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000
    r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000000
    iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na po nc
    cs=0010  ss=0018  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010246
    RTSTOR64+0xb0c9:
    fffff880`0237c0c9 4c8b6840        mov     r13,qword ptr [rax+40h] ds:002b:00000000`00000040=????????????????
    Resetting default scope
    
    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    
    CURRENT_IRQL:  0
    
    ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - <Unable to get error code text>
    
    EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  0000000000000000
    
    EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  0000000000000040
    
    READ_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from fffff800030c00e0
     0000000000000040 
    
    FOLLOWUP_IP: 
    RTSTOR64+b0c9
    fffff880`0237c0c9 4c8b6840        mov     r13,qword ptr [rax+40h]
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x7E
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  NULL_CLASS_PTR_DEREFERENCE
    
    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from 0000000000000000 to fffff8800237c0c9
    
    STACK_TEXT:  
    fffff880`053dfc60 00000000`00000000 : fffffa80`05c4da10 fffffa80`05c4db60 fffffa80`0570d5e0 58010200`5801da0b : RTSTOR64+0xb0c9
    
    
    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  0
    
    SYMBOL_NAME:  RTSTOR64+b0c9
    
    FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
    
    MODULE_NAME: RTSTOR64
    
    IMAGE_NAME:  RTSTOR64.SYS
    
    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  477cdbb5
    
    STACK_COMMAND:  .cxr 0xfffff880053df290 ; kb
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x7E_RTSTOR64+b0c9
    
    BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x7E_RTSTOR64+b0c9
    
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    start             end                 module name
    fffff880`02371000 fffff880`02385000   RTSTOR64 T (no symbols)           
        Loaded symbol image file: RTSTOR64.SYS
        Image path: RTSTOR64.SYS
        Image name: RTSTOR64.SYS
        Timestamp:        Thu Jan 03 14:57:25 2008 (477CDBB5)
        CheckSum:         00019CCB
        ImageSize:        00014000
        Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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  5. sh4ne

    sh4ne New Member

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    Hey guys,

    I want to thank you for your quick replies and detailed suggestions :) . I did my best to update and fix as many of those drivers as possible, including the Realtek USB Card Reader driver, though I couldn't find updates for everything (my laptop manufacturer hasn't posted updated drivers since 2008). I also used Ccleaner to fix registry problems.

    However, I still get the BSOD coming out of sleep. I think the issue is that the minidump file each of you looked at was for a different BSOD with error 7E. When the BSOD occurs coming out of sleep, it does NOT show up in the minidump folder, so that minidump file you looked at was NOT related to this problem (I don't think).

    More detail about when this BSOD started:
    I got a larger hard drive, a Samsung 640gb hdd to replace a Western Digital 250gb hdd. I cloned the 250gb hdd to the 640gb drive and it works perfectly as if I have the same hdd but with more space. Could there have been some compatibility problems that the new hard drive has with some files that were on the old one, preventing successful sleep mode transitions?

    I attached a blurry photo of the BSOD that shows everytime I wake my laptop from sleep (error F4).

    Thanks again!
    132_0529.JPG

    Oh and I did NOT delete avast! yet. It doesn't seem like that would be the problem, but let me know...
     
    #5 sh4ne, Oct 8, 2010
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  6. TorrentG

    TorrentG Banned

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    If you've updated the card reader drivers, then that's one of the problems you were having out of the way. Suggest to go over the other things shown and complete them as best you can.

    If you post a new minidump files, we can then take things from there to see what should be done.
     
  7. sh4ne

    sh4ne New Member

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    Hi again,

    I made some more updates and removed avast! and installed MSE. Thought I might have fixed it, but when it showed my desktop after waking from sleep, all desktop icons were gone and Windows basic theme was on. I restarted (fixed my weird desktop) and tried putting it into sleep again. The same BSOD occurred after resuming . . .


    BTW, no new minidumps are ever created from this BSOD. Double checked minidump settings, but still no minidumps. :confused:
     
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  8. cybercore

    cybercore New Member

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    Update as many as are available for your notebook. Also, you can search manufacturers sites directly. If you can't update something, disable it in the device manager (such as 56k modem and cam) or uninstall the software that you are not using anyway.


    Uninstall Avast, install MSE - you need to do this for troubleshooting purpose. When your system is all fixed and stable, you can install any security you like.



     
  9. sh4ne

    sh4ne New Member

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    Finished making those updates/disabling/deleting.

    Nothing but more problems now.

    At some point my plug and play devices like my Flash Drive and my CD drive no longer show up under My Computer. Under devices, they are listed with a yellow triangle and exclamation point, but troubleshooter cannot fix the problem (says to reinstall drivers, can't find itself).

    At one point, after installing a Java update and a tablet driver (says it required a restart, so I restarted) then another BSOD occurred, requiring a startup repair. I had to do a system restore to be able to bootup and login correctly again. This did not fix the external drives problem, they still do not show up under My Computer.


    !.
    :(

    edit: Also, when I try resuming from sleep now, all I get is a black screen (as if the LCD is off, no backlight), not a BSOD like before, while the computer itself seems to be running. When I press the power button, it shuts off.

    I am still confused why I have had to update drivers that were installed and working fine BEFORE I switched hard drives, when sleep mode still worked.
     
    #9 sh4ne, Oct 9, 2010
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  10. cybercore

    cybercore New Member

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    Those drivers were from before 7 rtm final, 2006-2009, they could have been related to your bsod's.


    Attach your ltest crash dumps, if drivers are all good then

    1. check if ACPI function is enbled in bios and try toggling s1/s3
    e.g. http://gsmblog.com/post/Difference-between-S1-(POS)-and-S3-(STR)-standby-mode-in-BIOS.aspx

    2. do the memtest overnight:
    RAM - Test with Memtest86+ - Windows 7 Forums
     

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