after neumerous installations and sp2 I have grown increasingly tollerant of vista , on a laptop where I finally did get windows 7 ultimate installed but then got nervous and returned to vista ,chicken you say , well I don,t like windows 7 it looks cheap,and in some ways oriental ha haaaaar, I am kind of tired of the slowness of the system but you can turn off uac and other services,anyway I am ok with vista now