My os is Window xp sp3 and HDD is Nearly full And want to install a new HDD

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  1. Bijay Prusti

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    Hello all my respected senior and junior members i have a problem
    my os is window xp sp3
    INTEL (R) Pentium (R) Dual CPU
    E2140 @ 1.60 GHz
    1.60 GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM
    HDD is 500 GB SATA


    lenovo mother board and i want to install a new hdd of 2TB or 1TB which will support
    so please suggest me what i should have to do
     
  2. bassfisher6522

    bassfisher6522 Essential Member

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    Is this PC a retail store bought or a custom built PC? First I would check to see what type of HDD connections this PC has....eg IDE or SATA. Then find out the size limit of a HDD that mobo can use.

    If your mobo has one or two available HDD ports open, I woud just install a 2nd drive (500GB) and use that drive for storage. Move all your music, docs, videos and all other data you want to keep. Then get rid of all the unwanted, unused software on primary HDD. Then clean that drive up.

    My HDD setup: primary 320 GB for OS and Office, few games and other software that uses about 100 to 120 GB, then I have a 1 TB drive for storage....eg pictures, music, videos and all downloads set to save to the 2nd drive.
     
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    IRQ 0 High precision event timer OK
    IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
    IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
    IRQ 8 High precision event timer OK
    IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
    IRQ 12 Microsoft PS/2 Mouse OK
    IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
    IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
    IRQ 16 NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT OK
    IRQ 16 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC OK
    IRQ 17 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK
    IRQ 18 Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio OK
    IRQ 20 SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller OK
    IRQ 21 SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller OK
    IRQ 22 SiS PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller OK
     
  4. Bijay Prusti

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    0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus OK
    0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller OK
    0x00000010-0x0000001F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000020-0x00000021 Programmable interrupt controller OK
    0x00000022-0x0000003F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000040-0x00000043 System timer OK
    0x00000044-0x0000005F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000060-0x00000060 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
    0x00000061-0x00000061 System speaker OK
    0x00000062-0x00000063 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000064-0x00000064 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
    0x00000065-0x0000006F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000070-0x00000071 System CMOS/real time clock OK
    0x00000072-0x0000007F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000080-0x00000080 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000081-0x00000083 Direct memory access controller OK
    0x00000084-0x00000086 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000087-0x00000087 Direct memory access controller OK
    0x00000088-0x00000088 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000089-0x0000008B Direct memory access controller OK
    0x0000008C-0x0000008E Motherboard resources OK
    0x0000008F-0x0000008F Direct memory access controller OK
    0x00000090-0x0000009F Motherboard resources OK
    0x000000A0-0x000000A1 Programmable interrupt controller OK
    0x000000A2-0x000000BF Motherboard resources OK
    0x000000C0-0x000000DF Direct memory access controller OK
    0x000000E0-0x000000EF Motherboard resources OK
    0x000000F0-0x000000FF Numeric data processor OK
    0x000001F0-0x000001F7 Primary IDE Channel OK
    0x00000274-0x00000277 ISAPNP Read Data Port OK
    0x00000279-0x00000279 ISAPNP Read Data Port OK
    0x00000290-0x00000297 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000378-0x0000037F Printer Port (LPT1) OK
    0x000003B0-0x000003BB PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge OK
    0x000003B0-0x000003BB NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT OK
    0x000003C0-0x000003DF PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge OK
    0x000003C0-0x000003DF NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT OK
    0x000003F6-0x000003F6 Primary IDE Channel OK
    0x000003F8-0x000003FF Communications Port (COM1) OK
    0x00000480-0x0000048F Motherboard resources OK
    0x000004D0-0x000004D1 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000800-0x0000087F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000880-0x000008FF Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000A00-0x00000A0F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000A10-0x00000A1F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000A20-0x00000A2F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000A30-0x00000A3F Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000A79-0x00000A79 ISAPNP Read Data Port OK
    0x00000C00-0x00000C05 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000C00-0x00000C05 Motherboard resources OK
    0x00000D00-0x0000FFFF PCI bus OK
    0x00000D00-0x0000FFFF Motherboard resources OK
    0x0000B800-0x0000B87F Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK
    0x0000BC00-0x0000BC0F Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK
    0x0000C000-0x0000C003 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK
    0x0000C400-0x0000C407 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK
    0x0000C800-0x0000C803 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK
    0x0000CC00-0x0000CC07 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller OK
    0x0000D000-0x0000DFFF PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge OK
    0x0000DC00-0x0000DC7F NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT OK
    0x0000E000-0x0000EFFF PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge OK
    0x0000EC00-0x0000ECFF Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC OK
    0x0000FFF0-0x0000FFFF SiS PCI IDE Controller OK
     
  5. bassfisher6522

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    None of that answers any of my questions. With replies like that, you won't get much help!
     
  6. Pauli

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    If you have the connections and cables, just plug it in. Some say max for XP is 2TB, some witness they use 3TB HDD. No definitely absolute information here. According to OP you have SATA, so you should be able to upgrade, depending on Mobo, and how many disk connections it may have.

    One good option is to get an external USB disk, it's just so easy to move.

    Quite another thing is, all XP support ends in April 2014. After that, Internet connection is gone - you'll be dead pretty soon, since security updates are absent, and maggots will eat your system.
     
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  7. seekermeister

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    I understand that support for the OS will terminate when you stated, and no further updates from MS will be released, but internet connection gone??? I think not, the connection is governed by factors outside of the OS's control. Yes, it might be wise to limit the use of the internet to a degree, but since AV, malware, etc. detections is performed by third party programs that won't necessarily cease functioning in lock-step with MS, I think that one could continue to use the internet indefinitely, as long as one would deem the risk acceptable.

    EDIT: Heck, you can still get Windows 98 software.
     
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  8. Pauli

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    Internet connections will not be gone, technically, but they will be gone effectively, since protection is out. It's true you can still get Windows 98, but its lifetime on Internet is something like 2-5 minutes. After that it's dead and gone. You can still install Windows 95 and even 3.11, they will function in a closed environment, but I wouldn't introduce them to Internet, in an open space.

    Third party programs cannot fix what can't be found in Windows OS, and since there is no support, you're out on your own. You need the fuel and engine, and since it's not there, your motor will stop.

    About the acceptable risk, do consider the risk caused to fellow users. We are highly interactive, and one getting the flue easily leads to others getting it. We do have a common responsibility, just like with cholera.
     
  9. seekermeister

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    Please document your statement about the time limitation of Windows 98 internet access time. The lack of support for the OS increases the vulnerability to someone being able to hack into a computer running it, but as to the exposure to AV, malware, etc., I do not believe that W98 would be any more vulnerable than current versions, becaue of third party protection. Also, since most of these types of malware are designed for specific OS types, Im not certain that W98 would be as vulnerable in the first place.

    EDIT: If I were to use an unsupported version of Windows, I wouldn't want any sensitive personal data on it, nor would I use it to access any online resources that that would require protection, like a bank account or performing a financial transaction. I would also be more concerned with increased risk of ID theft.
     
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  10. Pauli

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    There are no definite secure times, it's very much about opinions. But updates of security programs are not supported by older OS, thus the pyramid cracks.

    I doubt that, or at least the feeling of security that opinion brings. Those who want to harass, and have the energy and will to produce harmful components, are certainly willing to create new versions - once you have the basics done, a new version is no big deal. I claim, present baddies are built on former baddies.
     
  11. seekermeister

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    Sorry, but your going to have to translate this for me, something doesn't seem to jive. "There are no definite secure times"...define what you mean? "it's very much about opinions"...opinions about what? "Updates of security programs are not supported by older OS"...The security programs I was referring to are third party programs, which do not require support from the OS. On the other hand, those third party programs must be designed to be compatible with the OS. Apparently, we are speaking in a fashion that neither of us understand.

    You are correct that it is easy for malware to operate on W98 or XP, if not protected. But it should also be kept in mind that hackers tend to go for the bigger target...the current version(s) of Windows. Many people feel that Linux distros are safer, but the fact is that the only reason that they have less problems with malware, is because there isn't enough Linux users to make a attractive target for them.
     
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  12. Pauli

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    It's about opinions and experience. There is no way to tell the exact secure time - will it be 2 minutes, or 444 seconds, or 4444 seconds. It's impossible to foretell. The fact is, it's risky.

    To mention one example, http://support.kaspersky.com/8746, it goes with XP, but since security is not only about AV programs and such, but highly about OS functions, the basic is the need of OS security. Threats from outside are sort of extra, treated by other programs. Like, you have a lock on the door - but if you don't have the door...?

    Old is old, period.

    I remember, in 1990's, the British Navy discussed about getting Windows systems for their submarines, both defense and attack. It caused some worries, What if the system crashes? What if defense fails? What if missiles go to attack, due to power failure? What if... what if...? I don't have references for this, and I can't tell what decisions they made. All I can say is, we haven't got the whole ballgame - good for us.
     
  13. seekermeister

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    Why is it that you never documented your assertion regarding the amount of time on the internet, before W98 or XP (after it support termination) would go dead, but only continued making further assertions in the same vein? I am not attempting to encourage anyone to use an outdated OS, but I'm not going to let you discourage anyone based simply on your own opinions.
     
  14. Pauli

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    There is no definite information. It's like BSODs and other problems, in most cases they can be solved, but not in all. It's quite simply the wetland we live in.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110606031635AA0QRwM

    About opinions, YOU give some exact facts? Defined by technical IT facts? Eh? I say they don't exist. Because it's not a scientifically exact environment! If it was, like gravity or volt x ampere = watts, we wouldn't have crashes.

    It is all highly relative.
     
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  15. seekermeister

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    Not exactly sure what "facts" that you are referring to? I have no problem with anyone making statements, supported or not, if those statements are not patently false. I can only conclude that you are unable to document your statement regarding the internet "time switch" on MS's discontinued OSs because there is none.
     
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  16. Pauli

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    I've studied the subject, and still, there is no definite information. You can check http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29447 and others.

    You can do what you want, but I wouldn't go in communication with Windows 98 - consider it a personal opinion, I consider it to be an issue of security.

    The main question is not, perhaps, about Antivirus and such, but about Windows security. If Microsoft doesn't guarantee it, are you the one to do it? You say, hackers won't get me?

    I admit the timetable was a bad, it was apparently about an unprotected system.
     
  17. Andrea Borman

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    What Pauli said is not correct. Yes support for Windows XP is ending in April 2014. windows XP users will still be able to connect to the Internet as long as they have an Internet connection . Though you will no longer get updates,though it may be possible to install them manually online from Microsoft website. Also if you want to switch to Windows 7 or 8 you can transfer most of the software from Windows XP onto Windows7 and 8 and it still works.

    In fact I have got windows XP Sound recorder,Windows XP Paint,Wordpad,screensaver and even the Windows XP sound scheme running on Windows 8. All come from my windows XP computer and what's more they world. Oh I forgot so does Mplayer32-WMP5.1 and Clipboard or Clipbook,all from Windows XP working on Windows 7 and 8.

    As for running Windows 98 I did not think that could connect to the Internet at least not with wireless broadband but according to that link it does. Though have never used Windows 98 myself. One problem with Windows 98 is that you are stuck on IE6 as that's the highest version of IE it will run. Where as with Windows XP at least you can upgrade to IE8.
     
  18. Pauli

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    What I have tried to make a point of, IT is a stream, and it goes forward. The only way to follow the stream is, surprise surprise, to follow it. My wording may not have been the best, and that I apologize. But in order to hang on, you can't stay with old things, you simply have to accept the fact that you must upgrade and update, right after you have done that. Why, you can still use a Commodore 64! Like you can drive a T Ford! Or shoot a Winchester! Do it, but take general safety under consideration.

    What I don't apologize, is to have created some discussion about a matter that is truly important. To stir is a way to create thoughts and ideas, oftentimes fruitful. Something everyone won't like, but it's there. And I never stirred intentionally. And to awaken a few brains, that's hardly a bad thing!

    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241429/China_has_a_massive_Windows_XP_problem?taxonomyId=125&pageNumber=2

    http://www.itviikko.fi/teknologia/2013/08/09/kiina-joutumassa-pahaan-pulaan--syyna-windows-xp/201311054/7 is a Finnish page, quote

    "Huhtikuun 8. päivän jälkeen valtaosa maan tietokoneista pyörii käyttöjärjestelmällä, joka on turvaton. Tiedossa saattaa olla uusien haittaohjelmien epidemioita, kun rikolliset pyrkivät hyödyntämään tilannetta."
    "Yli 1,3 miljardin asukkaan maa onkin joutumassa todellisiin tietoturvaongelmiin Microsoftin päätöksen vuoksi."


    meaning

    "After April 8th the majority of computers [in China] will run on an OS that is safeless. It may lead to epidemics of new malware, as criminals try to take advantage of the situation".
    "The nation of over 1.3 billion citizens is probably going towards huge security problems due to Microsoft's decision".


    They consider XP to be a potential threat, period. I'm not trying to launch a Y2K phenomenon, period #2.

    The only way to be safe is to know you are safe. That's why I have bought and paid for several security programs. As well as Windows 7 Professional.

    The time to look in the mirror, for many? Perhaps engineers and programmers have done their part of the deal, to make us all more comfortable? Perhaps users should provide? ... I'll probably get dislike or hatred for the latest, but who cares? :cool:

    My simple and honest opinion is that, in order to get, one needs to provide. Bingo.

    Ah, came to mind, Neville Chamberlain's words ~ Hitler is no threat, he's a jolly good fellow. No threats we have, do we?
     
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