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The thread discusses whether a retail Windows 8 Pro upgrade disc (32-bit and 64-bit) can be used for a clean installation on a new partition without a prior OS, with some members confirming it’s possible. The original poster inquires specifically about using an upgrade version on a partition with no existing OS, questioning its legitimacy. Contributors clarify that a prior OS is typically required for an upgrade but that a clean install is feasible with the upgrade media if certain procedures are followed, and they share their insights on whether to use 32-bit or 64-bit versions based on RAM. Overall, the sentiment is informative, with agreement on the possibility of installing Windows 8 upgrade without a previous OS, along with some recommendations.

Jimbo22

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I tried that...but I don't like the fact you have to divvy up your hardware to use a VM. It's fine if you have and excess of CPU and RAM resources. If not it can be taxing on the host system. Right now with my dual boot setup of my Link Removed, I find myself staying on 8.1.1 Pro and rarely if ever I go back to 7. I don't have the lag a boot up you say you have.
 

whs

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I tried that...but I don't like the fact you have to divvy up your hardware to use a VM. It's fine if you have and excess of CPU and RAM resources. If not it can be taxing on the host system. Right now with my dual boot setup of my Link Removed, I find myself staying on 8.1.1 Pro and rarely if ever I go back to 7. I don't have the lag a boot up you say you have.
That is a very valid point. The entry point for comfortably running a system under VMware Player or vBox is a quad core CPU and 4GB of RAM. I sometimes run on a Q6600 with 4GB of RAM and that works well. But it is faster on my i7 with 8GB of RAM - especially when running Windows 8.1 on a Windows 7 host. I give 8.1 virtual 3 cores and 4GB of RAM.

For the Linux distros it is easier. There you can get away with 1 core and 1GB of RAM. But you still should have 2 cores and at least 2GB of RAM for the Windows host.

It is possible to run a Linux distro on a 2GB with 2cores system. But you need to be patient. For running Windows 8.1 on a Windows 7 host (or the other way around) using a 2GB, 2core configuration would run like molasses.

Note that all my systems run on SSDs which helps. My virtual systems I run from an external SSD. That external SSD is attached via eSata, USB3 or USB2 depending of what is available on the system where I run. But the different attachment types don't seem to make much of a performance difference - probably because the access time is aways the same.
 

whs

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Dual booting is a colossal disappointment.
I am removing it.
Virtual Box or VMware player will be a better alternative if I still fancy 2 OS in one hardware.
If dual booting was slow, virtual will be slower. See my post above.
 

davidhk129

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I mentioned " slow " as in slow in boot up time. Once the os is started, everything ran fine.
Does not matter, dual boot has been removed.