being a moron i never do those kind of things however when my new conruser arrives on 0ct 30th i might make a mental note to list all drivers and regularly search for upgrades thanks for reminderand learn how to di it. i knew this forum would be worth itas i don't get out much now its fairly important to me but they have started to get quite confusing with all the add ons the specs of my new one is staggering in just a few years and wppropriately priced. but this is probably the last one i will ever buy unless i capture first prize on the lottery, 60 million pounds next friday, ooohh i wish.