- May 9, 2016
- Eastern Pa
Well, geoffwba7, regarding your question about rolling back your W10 version to pre-1703, no matter what you do there, we recommend that you should first backup all your personal data on that computer to external media to avoid irretrievable data loss before proceeding!
Not sure if the Creators Update made the same 30-day uninstall provision that was in earlier versions of W10 (v1607, v1511, v10240) or not. Others here may have tried it or heard about whether or not it's still available in the new version (v1703). If it's available, and you haven't deleted the windows.old directories, that option might work for you.
Really, the most important thing is to realize that the entire upgrade process is "sketchy" at best as kemicaly rightly states it. Many hundreds of us W10 Insider Testers have seen this over and over again in all versions of W10 going back to 2014 prior to it's release, and Microsoft has a cleaner upgrade process, but it is certainly less than perfect, and often causes more problems than it fixes. Clean Install is still the way to go. In the future you may wish to turn off your WU and WUDO settings or change to a metered connection so that future major updates don't cause problems with your computer.
If at some point, you take all the necessary precautions for data backup and you wish to upgrade to the latest version of W10, you have the ability to undo the problems coming from a faulty upgrade and not lose stuff. Bear in mind too, that if the PC you have is not a clean-running machine and you've not thoroughly tested your hardware, the Upgrade process often fails in either or both cases. For most users, this is the case and very very few home users have a clean running PC or have paid a Tech to go through it right before attempting the W10 upgrade.
Some thoughts for you to consider.
Best of luck,
Hi Bassie,Yes, busy for two weeks with it, no result ,only back in three minutes with backup-software !
Lots of things are very annoying , no safe settings, UAC is really a disaster and worse ; these BSODs after a cold start,etc.
I really can advice everybody to wait with this " upgrade " ,for you will regret it, like I did.
Its just not yet finished , its still not offered by Windows-update !
Im on 1607 again, and its working like a charm,no BSODs ,fast and reliable.
>>>>Hi Geoff: Glad you were able to get things working again by reverting to your earlier version of W10! And very good job of backing up your files prior to the Update!Before I read your post I tried a system restore which failed, then I reverted to the previous build of Windows 10, which has worked and the PC now shuts down immediately, as it did before. A few days ago I took the precaution of backing up all my files, just in case. Which WU settings do I need to change to avoid future problems?
>>>>Hi Bassie; I think a lot has to do with the state of your hardware, and what kind of PC you have; I've noticed that folks with self-built PCs or custom-built PCs (especially Gamers) have a lot more problems with the W10 updates due to GPU card driver incompatibilities than if you are using an OEM PC (Dell, HP, Acer, Toshiba). My 8-1/2 year old Dell Studio desktop PC had zero problems with the v1703 CU update, it finished in 2 hours no problems. Also, as I mentioned in my Post #122 above, your PC needs to be squeaky clean in order to run the update properly, as well as having no hardware failures (such as failed Hard Drive or RAM stick(s)). If you haven't tested your hardware, you should consider doing it, before the next W10 update comes out, as if that's your real problem, you are gonna be waiting forever for Microsoft to deliver an update that will run on a computer containing failed hardware! Since you reverted to v1607 now and things are running with no BSODs, you'll probably stay there for awhile. If you do decided to follow my advice and test your hardware, take a look at my free TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE here which will give you step-by-step instructions to test your hardware here: Windows 10 - Unclickable Task BarThank you kemical , I read your post too late ,coz I went already back to previous Win10 ( from 1703 to 1607 )
All these BSODs gave a different message , each time .
ACPI.sys , NETIO.sys , IRQL not LESS OR EQUAL , NONPAGED AREA .
Latest ,I discovered with special bsod-progam ; ntoskrnl.exe .
Maybe you know the reason of all these errors , anyway I decided to go back coz I could not find a solution.
Only thing ; I started with a good system, never BSODs (!), and after upgrade/fresh install , I got a BSOD after cold start .
My conclusion ; this new 1703-version is too early for installing, its not yet finished ................
Many thanks for your valued advice. My PC is now behaving normally thank goodness! When I did have the Creators Update installed I did notice that Windows startup was considerably faster, not that startup using the old build was terribly slow.>>>>Hi Geoff: Glad you were able to get things working again by reverting to your earlier version of W10! And very good job of backing up your files prior to the Update!
Here are 2 links to help you with minimizing updates from coming into your computer in W10 v1607:
How to temporarily prevent a driver update from reinstalling in Windows 10
Windows Update Delivery Optimization: FAQ
Windows Update Delivery Optimization: FAQ
Bear in mind that in v1607, if you are running W10 Home, that version does not support the complete disabling of Updates coming into your computer nor will it let you reschedule a restart. This was a pain if you happened to be writing a Word document or an E-mail as the restart would occur without warning and could cause your windows to crash if it occurred during a write to the hard drive. If you are running W10 Pro, this still happens even though Microsoft told everyone it wouldn't--I personally tested it on several of my computers. The difference is, that with W10 Pro if you have your settings setup to reschedule your Update, you could at least tell it not to restart it until a later time and keep it from restarting while you are in the middle of working!
Another thing worth mentioning to you is that should you decided to install the v1703 CU update at a later time via Clean Install as we recommend or attempt to Upgrade again is that I was told by a tekky friend of mine that Microsoft has put back the ability to disable & reschedule the installation of new udpates coming into your computer if you have W10 Home now, just like W10 Pro has had since last August. My friend ran this on several of his computers, but I have neither heard of this, nor have had a chance to confirm whether or not it's true. Hopefully, some of our other W10 experts already participating on this thread will chime in. If you do have W10 Home, I would still suggest the settings I linked you to above, in any case until I can verify whether or not they are still needed for W10 Home v1703 or not. <<<<
In the meantime, that should keep you from having updates coming into your computer and messing things up! More or less anyway.
Best of luck,
Since you reverted to v1607 now and things are running with no BSODs, you'll probably stay there for awhile. If you do decided to follow my advice and test your hardware, take a look at my free TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE here which will give you step-by-step instructions to test your hardware here: Windows 10 - Unclickable Task Bar
Did a lot of searching for the reason of the Creators-upgrade-failure.
It failed after upgrading and ; after a new ( format C !) install also.
Tested my RAM,32GB, SSD is two years old with motherboard ( ASUS Z97-K ) , everything works perfect in the Anniversary-version.
I just can not find the reason why I got these nasty BSODs , after every cold booting ! ( never after reboot or warm booting )
I also can not understand all these different messages appearing with each BSOD; ACPI.SYS , NETIO.SYS ,IRQL.SYS and NONPAGED AREA.
Could it be caused by the two other HDDs , next installed with the OS-SSD ??
I did not formatted them , and there is a lot of previous-Windows files on them ( system-restore and other backup-files )
Do I have to pull them off the PC ,before upgrade/fresh install ??
I do hope someone knows more and ,maybe, has encountered the same problems like me............
Appreciate some help !!
>>>The dark blue or the light blue? Or the purple? I usually use the lighter blue italicized on my quoted replies. Do you have a suggestion for a different color?The colour of that text is almost painful.. wow.