CableCARD, who's to blame

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  1. djarrum

    djarrum New Member

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    is it CableLabs? the ones who claim that only certain PC's can be "Certified" Digital Cable ready? Digital cable ready doesn't mean anything other than a small flag has been added to a BIOS that enables OCUR. from everything I've read, it can be added to any BIOS.

    Is it ATI the one and only manufacturer of a CableCard ready Digital cable tuner card? What do they stand to looses if you can buy thir product and add it to any PC?

    Is it Microsoft? The one who provides the PID that allows media center to interface with your CableCARD tuner? What do they stand to loose if you can add a CableCARD ready tuner to your PC?

    Is it the select handful of crappy PC brands that somehow get to be "certified?" What do they stand to loose if you can add a CableCARD ready tuner to your PC?

    The cable TV providers? What do they stand to loose if you can add a CableCARD ready tuner to your PC?

    Why is it so important the people who either already own a PC or build their own PC's not be allowed to install one of these cards? Personally, I think someone stands to loose money if this becomes a DIY add-on option for PC builders/owners.

    Anyone have any input on this?
     
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    djarrum New Member

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    Update on CableCARD tuners

    Okay, so more research done and it seems that Microsoft working with CableLabs has gotten some things worked out that will allow anyone to drop a CableCARD tuner into their PC. Here's the thing... Other than ATI's tuner, there are still no other CableCARD ready tuners to be had. Ceton Corp, plans to release a very slick multi channel tuner that will act as six tuners in one, requiring only one CableCARD to be inserted. This is great news! but what about OCUR? Will I still need to have an "OCUR Enabled" BIOS?

    I've sent an e-mail to Ceton asking, but the only e-mail address I can get for them is to sales, and sales reps don't know anything. I'll keep hunting for more information, in the mean time, if anyone knows anything at all please post a reply.
     
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    OCUR and non OEM machine BIOS solution

    With some more digging, I have located two utilities, One will run a check to see if your system BIOS has OCUR enabled. The other will basically embed a hitfix into your boot loader that "Injects" the OCUR block into memory after the BIOS is read and stored in RAM. This doesn't alter your bios at all it's a post boot software solution that tricks your OS into believing that your PC is OCUR compliant.

    So what is this mysteriouse OCUR thing anyway?

    From what i can tell, it's nothing more than a little bit of data that simply put, identifies your machine as one that is certified by CableLabs to be Digital Cable compliant. Your probably asking, what makes a computer digital cable certified? the simple answer is, nothing. The PC OEM's don't like Do-it-yourself'ers. We make far better machines cheaper than they can sell them. Have you ever opened up a Dell and seen the cheep shit they stuff inside? anyway, thats another rant. What the OEMs did was have a little sit down with M$ and CableLabs to devise a grand scheme to keep DIY crowd out of the Media Center/HTPC cookie jar. when I say cookie jar a say it in the "Street Kings" sense of the term. Watch the movie, you'll understand.

    Those of you who think this is the cable companies trying to keep to tight a lid on DRM, thus making the whole process too daunting for us DIY folks, you would also be correct. Their motivation is also money, but not in a sense that they want to earn, but to keep from losing it to media theft. Don't worry Big Cable, MPAA and RIAA! people will still break down your mediocre methods of copy protection.

    so for those that are planning to take advantage of a CableCARD Digital cable tuner, the folks over at TheGreenButton have put together a nice little guide to help you. here is the link:

    Use this to see if your BIOS is OCUR enabled...
    http://www.dougknox.com/xpmce/utils/ocurbioscheck.zip

    If your Bios is not OCUR enables download this hot fix...
    http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/t/73065.aspx

    If you are a vista user, follow the instructions for vista there is nothing to note, if you are using Windows 7 take note of a few things they forget to mention:

    1) run mkldr.cmd to create the loader, don't know why they omitted this
    2) If you upgraded from vista to 7, you can skip the part about assigning a drive letter to the "System reserved patition, you don't have one.
    3) Run your "command prompt" as administrator, otherwise you will get an access denied message and the OSFRLoader will not install correctly.

    After restarting your machine, run the BIOS check again, you should get a response saying that your bios is now OCUR compliant. remember, nothing physically changed in your bios, so you can flash it every time a new revision is released without worry.

    Now, what about the Microsoft Digital Cable PID? I have that covered as well, follow this link:
    DIY'ers successfully build their own CableCARD equipped HTPC

    Personally, I'm waiting for the Ceton Card that will be 6 tuners in one card needing only one CableCARD to all. Check it out before dropping any money on a single ATI tuner when you could get a single card with 6;
    Ceton Corp announces multi-stream CableCARD tuner for Windows Media Center
     

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