Is it Windows 7 worth the money?

Discussion in 'Windows 7 Help and Support' started by ugly charles, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. tblount

    tblount New Member

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    Yes... but unfortunately I now want a LCD tv. Sigh
     
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    Wow... a sight modification in your post and I've found the perfect Microsoft marketing slogan.
     
  3. degal

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    definitely but I have also Snow Leopard

    definitely!! I have no problems with the software I have. btw, Mil Shield is a rare find in the internet space. Also Picasa.
     
  4. strgzr

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    well my short answer to the question "Is it Windows 7 worth the money" is NO, It's not!

     
  5. tblount

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    You can't say that is the case for everyone without taking into consideration at least a few of these outstanding benefits:

    1. If you spend 50 hrs a week on Vista and upgrade to Win 7 you reclaim 6 weeks of your life (in one year) that you would have spend sitting and twiddling your thumbs and waiting on Vista to perform tasks before giving the computer back to you. You could get a lot done in 6 weeks.

    2. The average home computer uses a little over $400 worth of electricity per year. The power consumption of Windows 7 is at least 17% less than Vista Upgrading from Vista would save you $70 per year PER COMPUTER. Not much but if you paid the electric bills for a large company with 7,000 computers, your profit would increase a HALF MILLION dollars per year if you upgraded to Windows 7.

    3. If you have projects such as graphics editing and architectural designs, the features of the Intel I7 processors along with Windows 7 multi-core/multi-thread processing will perform tasks that take an HOUR in Vista, about 20 minutes in Windows 7. If you are paying someone $30 per hour, you are now paying them $10 per hour... saving potentially 66% of your labor costs.

    It's all about efficiency.

    As for as cost, it's easy to run Windows 7 for free for at least 4 months before you have to pay. Microsoft WANTS you to evaluate Windows 7 so they give you 30 days grace and 3 times they give you 30 day extensions with rearm. By that time the prices will have dropped. There are lots of oem keys being sold on eBay at a fraction of the cost of the retail... and apparently Microsoft doesn't care... or they would have contacted eBay and had them shut it down. A lot of students will be selling their $30 keys too. They can buy all they want from Digital Rivers... all they need is a valid credit card and a .edu email address. Very relaxed requirements.

    Finally, Windows 7 is a very good operating system. I think the main thing people overlook is that Microsoft has to come out with a product that works on Computers that potentially have over a MILLION different combinations of hardware. They have taken on an enormous task. Most people can't even get their dog and cat to get along.
     
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    @ tblount

    Very informative...I won't quote that one.I think it's well worth the £45 i paid.Don't know about £170 for the average user tho' for premium.
     
  7. strgzr

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    I certainly won't try to speak for anyone else.


    Yes I have been taking advantage of this "Trial" period. And I will be looking in to alternatives I guess. Thanks for the tips!

    I totally agree with you!
     
  8. tblount

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    You'll make a lousy politician then. haha
     
  9. djarrum

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    Which is it, either you pay them $30/hr or $10/hr. You may be able to make your work force more productive, but their rate of pay will stay the same, that is unless you pay based on the amount of work done.

    I remember back when I drove a truck for a living and I had a boss that was dumb as a box of rocks. He was presented with a situation where a load was due in 20 hours but it was 40 hours drive (Assuming no stops) from it's destination. his exact words where "Can we get another driver to team up with him?" As if adding another driver was going to make the truck move twice as fast.

    Well back to the evolution of this topic. Windows 7 does nothing aside from Direct X that cant be done on Linux, and Linux has always proven to be more efficient, accurate and stable than any product Microsoft has released. Lets not forget the most important thing that Linux has going for it, price. Free is always the cheapest possible price. and with cutting costs priority number one with business, it seems Microsoft is at a huge disadvantage to Linux.

    Lets not forget that the core of how Linux operates has remained unchanged since it's release in 1991. The basics of how Linux works has long been a standard that anyone with a solid IT background should understand. If I where to hire IT personnel, I would hire the one who knows *Nix and can take away the tremendous cost involved with maintaining a Microsoft based network. Constantly sending my staff to school because Microsoft decided to change everything and thus my personnel's MSCE certifications are now obsolete is also a huge expense.

    Now that Microsoft is aware that it's customers are conscious of the existence of a free alternative, they are scared. This is why employees of Best Buy stores are feed propaganda created buy the Microsoft empire to show everyone how bad Linux is. Well if it's so bad why is it that Windows is on it's seventh version Mac OS is on it's tenth and Linux is only on it's second major revision. I'm not talking about each distributions revisions that amount only to look and feel, but the core kernel of the OS.

    Microsoft is a predatory business. and the thing the prey on is ignorance. From their employees through the retailers who are powerless to even think about offering an alternative to their customers, to third party hardware manufacturers. The time it takes for Microsoft to yank a vendors Compatibility logo from their product upon the adoption of support for any OS other than Windows can be clocked in milliseconds. And then we have the uber ignorant American consumer who for the most part accept that their is no alternative because the OEM's get to license windows on their computer products for next to nothing so long as they exclusively sell their machines with only Windows. If the buyer of a PC had to pay the full licensing cost for it's windows OS, they surely wouldn't find any $499 budget machines available now would they?
     
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    I couldn't think of a worse job. No Thanks!
     
  11. tblount

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    Workers are always paid for the amount of work they get done. ...well except the ones at work who are reading this now and goofing off. Shame on you... get back to work... or at least LOOK busy.

    If you were a driver you already know that 99.9 % of all drives don't make ANY money unless the wheels go round.



     
  12. djarrum

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    Tblount,

    wow first I only suspected you where an idiot, now you removed any shred of doubt. Lets do some math. A driver must cover a distance that at the maximum speed of his vehicle moving nonstop will take him 40 hours, The driver's deadline is 20 hours. How many drivers would be needed for the driver to complete is delivery on time?

    The answer is, NONE, you idiot! You cant make the truck go faster just because you add another driver. You can ensure that the truck doesn't stop moving as a result of rest/meal/food stops, but that doesn't change the fact that at it's maximum speed it's gonna take 40 hours to get there.

    Please for god sake tell me you work for Microsoft so I can forgive you for being a complete retard. With your level of ignorance, You would go far in the corporate world, you see these days ineptitude is rewarded by promotion. You run into this a lot in the military. I learned during my time in the army that when faced with an individual who's incompetence causes grief and suffering, it was much easier to get that person promoted than it was to get them fired. It is my belief that you are such a person and I think you deserve a promotion.
     
  13. djarrum

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    Ouside of video games, Please find an application that either has no Linux equivilent or doesn't run with WINE.



    I see you have been taking lessons in journalism from Fox news. if you're going to quote me, quite the entire statement so everyone can see how ridiculous your retort is.

    BTW, have you examined why so many PC's are sold with windows? Could it be that exclusive deals where made that prohibit OEMs from offering an alternative. Even if the alternative is a free one.

    No, I wouldn't. I would be paying them to manage a Linux network, thus I wouldn't have any issues with down time and inefficient productivity as my system wouldn't suffer of a pathetically inefficient OS. And if my IT staff is sitting around doing nothing as a result of me using Linux, I would be pleased as punch. At least then I would know I have a quality OS running my network.

    Only bad businesses are predatory. A successful business shouldn't ignore the issues with their current product just because fixing it generates less revenue than coming up with a whole new product that they can market as it's replacement. Remeber all those Mojave commercials meant to show you that Vista really isn't as bad as they say? Well my firend, you can roll a turd in glitter all you want, it's still a turd.

    I remember a movie about two plastic surgeons who made million selling silicone breast implants. Then when the sh!t hit the fan they where able to make millions more selling a procedure where they could remove the dangerous silicone implants and replace them with saline. The funny part was, the saline implants where available as a safer and cheeper option from the beginning but back room deals where made with plastic surgeons and Dow Corning that gave large bonuses to the plastic surgeons who adopted the silicone implants. Because of all of this, No one was aware until after the silicone implants began to show serious medical side effects that a safer product was available.

    They say buyer be ware, but just as these plastic surgeons didn't tell their patients that a safer alternative implant was available, you wont see PC retailers telling their customers that a cheaper, more reliable alternative OS exists either. The only difference, is your OS isn't going to leak and cause your t!ts to rot off. Microsoft is to Operating systems what Dow Corning was to breast implants.
     
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    I thought question was: "Is it Windows 7 worth the money?". Wow, this topic evolved into something I'd rather avoid, but I'll still comment just for fun and to break this negative vibe growing stronger. :) BE GONE YE WHO SPREAD NEGATIVES!!! lol

    OnTopic: Oh God. If you thought Vista was a good investment you can't go wrong here. If you're XP fan you'll get over it with this baby. Short and sweet. :)
     
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    Thanks... it was about to get bloody in here.. the guy pulled a knife on me.
     
  17. djarrum

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    Sorry,

    In my world, it's immoral to let someone continue to think they are smart when clearly they are not. See I didn't grow up in your world where everyone gets first place, no one gets a failing grade and no child gets left behind. Bottom line, you opened your mouth, and proved to everyone you where an idiot and apparently after showing you the evidence and pointing out step by step where your logic is flawed, you still believe you are not.

    and who got personal here? me or you? I made a point in reply to someone else with something a learned in my past, You where the one who attempted to dissect my statement and prove to everyone how 40x2=20. I'm not the kind of guy who will allow someone to make an ass of them self and do them the disservice of letting them live their life without telling them they're retarded.

    That being said, after I got done tearing the beating heart out of your skewed logic, I did answer your post. Perhaps you should go back and read the post immediately following the one that points out just how retarded you are. There are plenty of online resources that will help you with the bigger words.
     
  18. tblount

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    I would offer a response to your diatribe, however we would only go around in circles and it would only turn into "I know you are but what am I."

    I don't truly believe that you are mentally handicapped, but you do suffer from a condition that many people in an online forum suffer of. You don't read what someone writes in it's entirety and allow what is being said to sink in before allowing your personal feelings to interrupt logical thought processes.

    Feel free to reread what I've written and I welcome any well thought out debate on the topic at hand.
     
  20. tblount

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    Yes ... I know i suffer from the illness of respectful of others and don't call them fools and idiots and retards..

    I'm glad I have this "condition."
     

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