Thanks, but as i said have removed all known entries of that program,
Changed protocols,uninstalled,removed Registry data,removed relevant system 32 dll's
there is no trace of that program\software on my comp
(unless its hiding somewhere else or called something else)
this is a far more complex problem,
ive spent days searching the net, but cant find anything
(people who have followed those online tutorials probably have the same problem
as i do but haven't noticed it yet)