In one of the threads below you placed a link to the Windows 10 download tools since finding that gem I have downloaded and installed Windows 10 to my homebuilt Win 8.1 Pro desktop, my 8.1 Pro MSI GX70 Laptop with it's APU in lieu of a CPU, my Microsoft Surface 2 Pro Tablet (Again 8.1 Pro) and now I am down loading the 64 bit version to an older homebuilt desktop that is/ was running Win 7 Ultimate. That last is not yet complete but the others were way smoother than I expected. I did lose a few programs here and there, but what are the loss of programs among friends. Bit of a pain, but I will overcome. Really many thanks Mike!