Oops, I entered this in the wrong place - I'm now starting a new thread for it. Maybe you guys can help with this... I've been editing a video using Sony Vegas. It's new for me, and I'm learning as I go. Yesterday, I wanted to create some Star Wars type titles, and remembered that the old Microsoft Movie Maker let people do this. So, I tried to run Movie Maker, but got an error message. After looking around on the internet, I learned about "Windows Essentials 2012" which added the features to allow Movie Maker to work. Bottom line - this worked fine. Movie Maker (and a lot of other things) were added to my Win-8 computer. Problem - Movie Maker used to have a "timeline" for editing, but it was missing. After reading various forums and articles, I found that this is nothing new - the brilliant folks at Microsoft decided that this was too complicated for a first-grader, so they removed it completely. The newer, "dumbed-down" version seems pretty worthless to me - more like a picture viewer for videos. First question - is there any way to "fix" the new version of Win-8 Movie Maker to work the way the older versions did, many years ago? Second question - if not, is it possible to find an older version of Movie Maker, back from when it was a more complete program, and get it to work using Windows 8 ? My original goal was to simply create the video title, and add it to the video I am creating with the Sony software, but then I started thinking - how about all the people who might want to use Movie Maker the way they used to? Am I missing something obvious, or did Microsoft really cripple the program for good?