Happy New Year !! I don't know why they don't offer "Windows Mail Updates" through the system, but they don't, never have. It's a hassle because everything has to be re-installed. Mail does not always move like it should. So David doesn't have a problem ? The Windows mail team has been doing a lot of updating on my mail box lately. Not a 14 version yet. The other day my mailbox would not recognize my password (Positive it Was Correct) Seems Hunky Dory with new password- for the moment. Internet Explorer flashed a positive for a worm- at one site. All tests, so far, are negative since then. Here's a post on "Why Windows Removed the Tool bar Button Icon in the new Windows Live Mail" Link Removed - Invalid URL. I believe this article has to be looked up by hand on the Internet, won't link.