Actually the reason I started the thread (if you'll read my first post) is because there are areas of this os that can be improved. It was 'never' my intention to turn this into some sort vista loving thread. I'd read an article and thought I'd open it up for discussion. Many of your arguments are valid and I'm sure if you wasn't so caustic with some of your remarks many here would agree with some of what you say. Your obviously an intelligent person but why do you feel you have to make your comments so personal? Your views and comments I welcome, the little jibes and snipes I do not.