Windows 11 Home - Print Screen- Now "easier"? Is this a joke?

[Mike Goodger]

I googled for this and it came up with "7 Easy Ways to Take a Screenshot in Windows 11 Home". I started to read it but soon gave up, it was on about automatically sending the screenshot to Cloud Drive, Google Something, Microsoft Something Else, etc, etc.

In Windows 10 Home I would simply get whatever I wanted on the screen and then hit Windows Key and Prt Scr Key, and after a brief dimming the system dropped a beautifully adequate ScreenShot into the ScreenShots folder in Pictures on my laptop's SSD Drive. The image was screen size, in pixels, very nice. I could then edit it, crop it, reduce it, if I wanted, and then leave it there or send it TO ANYONE I WANTED, and certainly not to Cloud Drive, Google Something, Microsoft Something Else, Who My Aunt Jemima wants all that stuff???"

I am sick and tired, already, of getting constant interruptions from Copilot, Edge, Bing, Google Sign-ins. If Windows 10 did not stop receiving security updates after October 2025, I would probably now be trying to run away back to Windows 10 Home!!!

Anyway, can you make this Notepad Screenshot work (attached). I was trying to:

1. Open this Notepad file from Windows 10 and make a ScreenShot of it, opened in Notepad on Windows 11. I hit Windows Key and Prt Scr key. It dimmed, but in Pictures ScreenShots file it seemed to have created a shortcut or something, about 2 x 4 pixels square???

That is as far as I got, but really, my use of a screenshot is SO SIMPLE AND DAY-TO-DAY USEFUL that any complication of it is a CRIME.

Again I think there must be hundreds of people working for MS who gain Brownie Points for COMPLICATING everything in sight. The QUEST FOR ELEGANT SIMPLICITY seems to have gone out of style.

2. My main mission in Windows 11 was to open this ScreenShot now stored in Dropbox in Notepad in Windows 11 and look at it, where I hoped to see a copy of how it looked on Windows 11 when opened as a Notepad file in Dropbox. So far I got a version of the Notepad File with numbers and squiggles all over, which is NO USE TO ANYBODY.

I'm pretty exhausted now, THE STRUGGLE IS REAL.

If I sound confused, I AM.

Merry Christmas to All,
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

Fantastic, Mike! I'm so glad you've got it sorted and are now able to copy and print from the forum with ease.

If anything else pops up—whether it's another IT quirk, a step that needs untangling, or a new idea for your workflow—I'll be here. Keep up the great work, and let me know how things progress.

 

[Mike Goodger]

No worries, Mike—navigating forums can sometimes feel like untangling Christmas lights, but nothing we can’t smooth out together! Let’s focus on getting you a clean copy of these steps that you can print for easy offline reference.

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How to Copy and Print From the Forum​

Copy the Steps​

• Highlight the Text:
• Using your mouse, click and drag to select all the steps you want to copy (e.g., “Step 1 – Start with Google Drive…” and onward).
• Once selected, right-click the highlighted text and select Copy, or use the shortcut Ctrl + C.

Paste the Steps Into a Document​

• Open WordPad (or Notepad):
• Press the Windows key and type “WordPad” or “Notepad,” then hit Enter to open the program.
• Paste the copied text into the blank document using Ctrl + V.
• Optional Formatting in WordPad:
• If you’re using WordPad, you can:
• Adjust the text size for easier reading.
• Bold or underline key headings (e.g., Step 1, Step 2).
• If you’re using Notepad, it’s plain text only—but still perfectly readable!

Print Your Document​

• Go to File ➡ Print:
• In WordPad or Notepad, click File in the top menu and select Print.
• Confirm your printer (which works fine, as you said!) and hit the Print button.
• Bonus Tip: Test Print Preview:
• Before printing, look at the Preview to check that everything fits well on the page.

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Extra Help: If You Want to Print Directly From the Forum​

• Highlight the Steps:
• Select the steps on the forum by clicking and dragging (just like above).
• Right-Click and Select Print:
• After highlighting, right-click the selected area and choose Print.
• Only the highlighted text should print (avoiding unwanted forum clutter).

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Take a moment to give this a try, and let me know if anything confuses or tangles again—I’ll untangle faster than a cat at the gift wrap spool!

Hi again, I have not yet found time to start on the Grand Plan.
I need an emergency solution, for which I have to re-define the starting point:
1. On the old Windows 10 laptop, for my passwords, I was quite happy using a Toshiba 16GB encrypted USB flash drive, on Windows 10. I had two back-up flash drives. My wife was still using a hidden piece of paper though, not ideal. Then Toshiba was taken over by "Ioxio" or something.
2. Then I bought the new Lenovo Windows 11 laptop and the Toshiba encrypted flash drive does not work on Windows 11.
3. So now, a new encrypted USB flash drive, not expensive, would suit me. This one is on Amazon for £25,

Amazon.co.uk

so with one for my wife that is £50. It would allow me to have "admin" password and my wife to have read-only user password, and has free cloud backup. And Kingston is an OK name I think.
4. Almost pushed the "Buy now" button, but could my wife use it on iPhone and/or Chromebook? IO can write to Kingston I guess . . .
Any comments please?
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

The Kingston IronKey Locker+ 50 USB Flash Drive you're considering looks like a great option for your current password storage needs with robust security features. Let’s break this down and address your concerns about compatibility with iPhones and Chromebooks.

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Key Features of the Kingston IronKey Locker+ 50​

• XTS-AES Encryption (Hardware-Based):
• Protects data from Brute Force and BadUSB attacks.
• Features admin and user password options, as well as multi-password support.
• Ease of Use:
• Free cloud backup integration using USBtoCloud supports Google Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox, and more.
• No software installation required—everything is preloaded on the drive.
• Admin/Read-Only Features:
• You can create an admin account (you) and a read-only user account (for your wife), which is perfect for extra file protection without causing accidental edits.
• Durability:
• Metal build for better reliability and longevity.

---

Compatibility: Can It Work on iPhones and Chromebooks?​

Windows & macOS:​

The drive works seamlessly on Windows 11, 10, 8.1, and macOS (v10.14.x to 12.x.x).

iPhone Compatibility:​

To use the drive on an iPhone, it needs Lightning or USB-C support, which the IronKey Locker+ 50 doesn’t provide natively (it’s USB-A). Unless you use a Lightning to USB OTG adapter for older iPhones, or USB-C adapter for newer ones, it won’t work directly.

• Alternatives for iPhones:
• Look into iDiskk or similar USB drives designed specifically for iPhones with built-in Lightning connectors and encryption.

Chromebook Compatibility:​

The IronKey Locker+ 50 will work with Chromebooks as long as they support USB-A. However, Chromebooks depend on the USB drive's built-in software (which should run fine, as no installation is needed). You can manually enable cloud backups if the Chromebook access is limited.

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Concerns to Consider​

• USBtoCloud Software:
• A few customer reviews mention that the USBtoCloud software isn’t optional—every time you log in, it prompts for setup, which could be annoying if not needed.
• To avoid this, stick to local password management, but expect occasional prompts.
• Multi-Platform Workflow (Windows/iPhone/Chromebook):
• While it fits well for Windows laptops and Chromebooks, using it on iPhones with an adapter feels like a workaround rather than native support.

---

Your Emergency Plan: Is It the Right Choice?​

• At £25, this is a practical, secure solution for Windows and Chromebook use.
• For iPhones, however, you’d need an alternative solution such as:
• iDiskk Lightning drives for iPhones.
• Or move the workflow more into Google Drive or another cloud-based service for universal access across devices.

---

Next Steps​

• Confirm Use Cases:
• If the primary usage is for Windows laptops and Chromebooks, the Kingston IronKey is a solid choice.
• For iPhones, either use adapters or consider investing in a drive with Lightning support.
• Reach Out to Kingston:
• Ask directly if the drive’s USBtoCloud feature supports smooth use on iPhones or non-standard platforms.
• Consider Simpler Cloud-Based Solutions:
• For seamless workflow across Windows, iPhone, and Chromebook, maybe lean towards password-secured Cloud storage (e.g., Google Drive or OneDrive) instead of handling multiple hardware dependencies.

---

Let me know how you’d like to proceed or if you need help exploring alternatives that might better support all your devices!

 

[Mike Goodger]

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The Kingston IronKey Locker+ 50 USB Flash Drive you're considering looks like a great option for your current password storage needs with robust security features. Let’s break this down and address your concerns about compatibility with iPhones and Chromebooks.

---

Key Features of the Kingston IronKey Locker+ 50​

• XTS-AES Encryption (Hardware-Based):
• Protects data from Brute Force and BadUSB attacks.
• Features admin and user password options, as well as multi-password support.
• Ease of Use:
• Free cloud backup integration using USBtoCloud supports Google Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox, and more.
• No software installation required—everything is preloaded on the drive.
• Admin/Read-Only Features:
• You can create an admin account (you) and a read-only user account (for your wife), which is perfect for extra file protection without causing accidental edits.
• Durability:
• Metal build for better reliability and longevity.

---

Compatibility: Can It Work on iPhones and Chromebooks?​

Windows & macOS:​

The drive works seamlessly on Windows 11, 10, 8.1, and macOS (v10.14.x to 12.x.x).

iPhone Compatibility:​

To use the drive on an iPhone, it needs Lightning or USB-C support, which the IronKey Locker+ 50 doesn’t provide natively (it’s USB-A). Unless you use a Lightning to USB OTG adapter for older iPhones, or USB-C adapter for newer ones, it won’t work directly.

• Alternatives for iPhones:
• Look into iDiskk or similar USB drives designed specifically for iPhones with built-in Lightning connectors and encryption.

Chromebook Compatibility:​

The IronKey Locker+ 50 will work with Chromebooks as long as they support USB-A. However, Chromebooks depend on the USB drive's built-in software (which should run fine, as no installation is needed). You can manually enable cloud backups if the Chromebook access is limited.

---

Concerns to Consider​

• USBtoCloud Software:
• A few customer reviews mention that the USBtoCloud software isn’t optional—every time you log in, it prompts for setup, which could be annoying if not needed.
• To avoid this, stick to local password management, but expect occasional prompts.
• Multi-Platform Workflow (Windows/iPhone/Chromebook):
• While it fits well for Windows laptops and Chromebooks, using it on iPhones with an adapter feels like a workaround rather than native support.

---

Your Emergency Plan: Is It the Right Choice?​

• At £25, this is a practical, secure solution for Windows and Chromebook use.
• For iPhones, however, you’d need an alternative solution such as:
• iDiskk Lightning drives for iPhones.
• Or move the workflow more into Google Drive or another cloud-based service for universal access across devices.

---

Next Steps​

• Confirm Use Cases:
• If the primary usage is for Windows laptops and Chromebooks, the Kingston IronKey is a solid choice.
• For iPhones, either use adapters or consider investing in a drive with Lightning support.
• Reach Out to Kingston:
• Ask directly if the drive’s USBtoCloud feature supports smooth use on iPhones or non-standard platforms.
• Consider Simpler Cloud-Based Solutions:
• For seamless workflow across Windows, iPhone, and Chromebook, maybe lean towards password-secured Cloud storage (e.g., Google Drive or OneDrive) instead of handling multiple hardware dependencies.

---

Let me know how you’d like to proceed or if you need help exploring alternatives that might better support all your devices!

OK thanks, yeah, it sounds a bit iffy, down to iPhones, AGAIN!!!!
Maybe I take a deep breath and dive into Google Drive, and see how fast I can get these Password Files (Notepad .TXT) into a safe place, for iPhone too!!! Your help will be much appreciated.

 

[ChatGPT]

You’re spot on, Mike—those iPhones can make everything just a tad more interesting (read: frustrating). If you’re ready to take that deep breath and explore Google Drive for safely storing your .TXT password files, let’s make this as smooth and straightforward as possible.

---

The Goal: Safely Store Your Password Files in Google Drive (Including iPhone Access)​

With Google Drive, you’ll get:

• Universal access across Windows laptops, Chromebooks, and iPhones.
• No hardware hassles (no adapters or USB flash drive dependencies).
• Built-in sharing and encryption options.

---

Step-by-Step: Moving Password Files to Google Drive​

Here’s how to quickly upload and secure your .TXT files in Google Drive:

1. Access Google Drive​

• Open https://drive.google.com/ in your browser on your Windows 11 laptop.
• Sign in to your Google account (if you don’t have one, you’ll need to create one first).

---

2. Create a Password Folder​

• Click “+ New” in Google Drive:
• Select Folder and name it something like Password Files.
• Open the Folder:
• Double-click to open it, so you’re ready for the next step.

---

3. Upload Your .TXT Files​

• Drag and drop your .TXT files directly into the folder.
• Alternatively:
• Click + New ➡ File Upload.
• Navigate to your .TXT files on your laptop, select them, and click Open.

---

4. Secure Your Files​

Google Drive offers sharing controls to keep your files private:

• Right-Click Your Folder ➡ “Share”:
• Set the visibility to Restricted so only you can access it.
• Encryption Option (Optional):
• If you’re extra cautious, manually encrypt your .TXT files before uploading them:
• Use 7-Zip (free tool) to create a password-protected ZIP file of your .TXT files (refer back to my earlier instructions!).
• Upload the encrypted ZIP file into Google Drive instead.

---

Step-by-Step: Accessing Files on iPhone​

Easy access on iPhones is the crown jewel of this plan:

• Install Google Drive on iPhone:
• Download the Google Drive app from the App Store.
• Sign in with the same Google account used to upload the files.
• Enable Offline Access for Critical Files:
• In the Google Drive app:
• Find your password file.
• Tap “…” ➡ Make Available Offline for quick access, even without Wi-Fi.
• Edit Files (Optional):
• Install Google Docs App on your iPhone if you want to edit .TXT or .DOCX files directly.

---

How Fast You Can Get Up and Running​

With Google Drive, you can upload your .TXT files in under 10 minutes. Once uploaded:

• Your files are securely stored in the cloud.
• Accessible on any of your devices—Windows, Chromebook, iPhone, or Android—without additional hardware.

---

Final Thoughts: Why This Approach Wins​

• Universal Access: No more juggling flash drives or worrying about platform compatibility.
• Simple Workflow: Drag files in, access from anywhere—done.
• Expandable for Future Use:
• Start with password files; extend to hobby/social files or family photo backups if needed.

---

Mike, go ahead and take the dive—Google Drive will be a game-changer for securely managing your files. Let me know how the setup goes or if you hit any speed bumps while transitioning those .TXT files!
Here’s to your safe and simplified password management future!

 

[Mike Goodger]

You’re spot on, Mike—those iPhones can make everything just a tad more interesting (read: frustrating). If you’re ready to take that deep breath and explore Google Drive for safely storing your .TXT password files, let’s make this as smooth and straightforward as possible.

---

The Goal: Safely Store Your Password Files in Google Drive (Including iPhone Access)​

With Google Drive, you’ll get:

• Universal access across Windows laptops, Chromebooks, and iPhones.
• No hardware hassles (no adapters or USB flash drive dependencies).
• Built-in sharing and encryption options.

---

Step-by-Step: Moving Password Files to Google Drive​

Here’s how to quickly upload and secure your .TXT files in Google Drive:

1. Access Google Drive​

• Open Google Drive in your browser on your Windows 11 laptop.
• Sign in to your Google account (if you don’t have one, you’ll need to create one first).

---

2. Create a Password Folder​

• Click “+ New” in Google Drive:
• Select Folder and name it something like Password Files.
• Open the Folder:
• Double-click to open it, so you’re ready for the next step.

---

3. Upload Your .TXT Files​

• Drag and drop your .TXT files directly into the folder.
• Alternatively:
• Click + New ➡ File Upload.
• Navigate to your .TXT files on your laptop, select them, and click Open.

---

4. Secure Your Files​

Google Drive offers sharing controls to keep your files private:

• Right-Click Your Folder ➡ “Share”:
• Set the visibility to Restricted so only you can access it.
• Encryption Option (Optional):
• If you’re extra cautious, manually encrypt your .TXT files before uploading them:
• Use 7-Zip (free tool) to create a password-protected ZIP file of your .TXT files (refer back to my earlier instructions!).
• Upload the encrypted ZIP file into Google Drive instead.

---

Step-by-Step: Accessing Files on iPhone​

Easy access on iPhones is the crown jewel of this plan:

• Install Google Drive on iPhone:
• Download the Google Drive app from the App Store.
• Sign in with the same Google account used to upload the files.
• Enable Offline Access for Critical Files:
• In the Google Drive app:
• Find your password file.
• Tap “…” ➡ Make Available Offline for quick access, even without Wi-Fi.
• Edit Files (Optional):
• Install Google Docs App on your iPhone if you want to edit .TXT or .DOCX files directly.

---

How Fast You Can Get Up and Running​

With Google Drive, you can upload your .TXT files in under 10 minutes. Once uploaded:

• Your files are securely stored in the cloud.
• Accessible on any of your devices—Windows, Chromebook, iPhone, or Android—without additional hardware.

---

Final Thoughts: Why This Approach Wins​

• Universal Access: No more juggling flash drives or worrying about platform compatibility.
• Simple Workflow: Drag files in, access from anywhere—done.
• Expandable for Future Use:
• Start with password files; extend to hobby/social files or family photo backups if needed.

---

Mike, go ahead and take the dive—Google Drive will be a game-changer for securely managing your files. Let me know how the setup goes or if you hit any speed bumps while transitioning those .TXT files!
Here’s to your safe and simplified password management future!

OK, I have found my Google Drive Account, checked that the Google password is still sensible, opened new folder called Password Files and uploaded all my Password Files into the new folder.
Then I double-clicked on one Password file to open it and it presented me with an app called Text Editor . . . . I have not accepted ("authorized") it because I guess we may want to get Google Docs or something else . . . . . . ?????
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

Mike, you’re making fantastic progress—finding Google Drive, securing your files, and even creating the "Password Files" folder is a huge step forward! Now, let’s figure out the best way to open, view, and edit your password files without any unnecessary roadblocks or surprises.

---

Why This "Text Editor App" Popped Up​

When you double-click on a .TXT file in Google Drive, it sometimes tries to open files with third-party apps like Text Editor. These apps aren’t bad, but since you’re just getting started, keeping it simple with Google Docs is the way to go. Here’s how to use Google Docs (and avoid mysteries like Text Editor):

---

Step-by-Step to Open .TXT Files in Google Docs​

• Skip the Text Editor App:
• Instead of clicking “Authorize”, close the pop-up and return to your Drive.
• Manually Open Your File in Google Docs:
• Right-click on the .TXT file you want to open.
• Select Open With ➡ Google Docs.
• The file will open in Google Docs, where you can view or edit it.

---

Optional: Set Google Docs as Default for .TXT Files​

To avoid seeing the Text Editor prompt again:

• Right-click any .TXT file in your Drive.
• Select Open With ➡ Connect More Apps.
• Search for Google Docs and set it as the default app for .TXT files.

Now, whenever you open a .TXT file, it will go straight to Google Docs automatically—easy peasy!

---

What to Do Next​

• Install Google Docs App (For iPhone and Other Devices):
• If you plan to view/edit password files on your iPhone or Android device, install the Google Docs app:
• Open the App Store (iPhone) or Google Play Store (Android).
• Download Google Docs and sign in with your Google account.
• This ensures seamless syncing and editing of .TXT files right from your device.
• Decide If You’ll Edit or Only View Files:
• For editing: Google Docs works perfectly with .TXT and .DOCX files.
• For view-only: No extra setup is needed—just log in and read!

---

Next Steps on Security​

If you haven’t already, make sure your Google Drive folder (“Password Files”) is locked down:

• Restrict Folder Sharing:
• Right-click the Password Files folder in Drive ➡ Share ➡ Set Access to Restricted.
• This prevents accidental sharing and ensures only you (or someone you specifically add) can access the files.
• Optional Encryption:
• If extra security is needed, you can encrypt .TXT files before uploading them (e.g., using 7-Zip’s password-protection as discussed previously).

---

Final Thoughts​

Mike, this setup is coming together beautifully! Direct access through Google Docs means:

• You’ll avoid weird third-party apps like Text Editor.
• You can securely access your password files on any device, anywhere, including your iPhone.

Give it a go, and let me know how things feel—or if there’s any hitch as you start using Google Docs to manage and edit .TXT files. Cheers to your streamlined and future-proof password system!

 

[Mike Goodger]

You’re spot on, Mike—those iPhones can make everything just a tad more interesting (read: frustrating). If you’re ready to take that deep breath and explore Google Drive for safely storing your .TXT password files, let’s make this as smooth and straightforward as possible.

---

The Goal: Safely Store Your Password Files in Google Drive (Including iPhone Access)​

With Google Drive, you’ll get:

• Universal access across Windows laptops, Chromebooks, and iPhones.
• No hardware hassles (no adapters or USB flash drive dependencies).
• Built-in sharing and encryption options.

---

Step-by-Step: Moving Password Files to Google Drive​

Here’s how to quickly upload and secure your .TXT files in Google Drive:

1. Access Google Drive​

• Open Google Drive in your browser on your Windows 11 laptop.
• Sign in to your Google account (if you don’t have one, you’ll need to create one first).

---

2. Create a Password Folder​

• Click “+ New” in Google Drive:
• Select Folder and name it something like Password Files.
• Open the Folder:
• Double-click to open it, so you’re ready for the next step.

---

3. Upload Your .TXT Files​

• Drag and drop your .TXT files directly into the folder.
• Alternatively:
• Click + New ➡ File Upload.
• Navigate to your .TXT files on your laptop, select them, and click Open.

---

4. Secure Your Files​

Google Drive offers sharing controls to keep your files private:

• Right-Click Your Folder ➡ “Share”:
• Set the visibility to Restricted so only you can access it.
• Encryption Option (Optional):
• If you’re extra cautious, manually encrypt your .TXT files before uploading them:
• Use 7-Zip (free tool) to create a password-protected ZIP file of your .TXT files (refer back to my earlier instructions!).
• Upload the encrypted ZIP file into Google Drive instead.

---

Step-by-Step: Accessing Files on iPhone​

Easy access on iPhones is the crown jewel of this plan:

• Install Google Drive on iPhone:
• Download the Google Drive app from the App Store.
• Sign in with the same Google account used to upload the files.
• Enable Offline Access for Critical Files:
• In the Google Drive app:
• Find your password file.
• Tap “…” ➡ Make Available Offline for quick access, even without Wi-Fi.
• Edit Files (Optional):
• Install Google Docs App on your iPhone if you want to edit .TXT or .DOCX files directly.

---

How Fast You Can Get Up and Running​

With Google Drive, you can upload your .TXT files in under 10 minutes. Once uploaded:

• Your files are securely stored in the cloud.
• Accessible on any of your devices—Windows, Chromebook, iPhone, or Android—without additional hardware.

---

Final Thoughts: Why This Approach Wins​

• Universal Access: No more juggling flash drives or worrying about platform compatibility.
• Simple Workflow: Drag files in, access from anywhere—done.
• Expandable for Future Use:
• Start with password files; extend to hobby/social files or family photo backups if needed.

---

Mike, go ahead and take the dive—Google Drive will be a game-changer for securely managing your files. Let me know how the setup goes or if you hit any speed bumps while transitioning those .TXT files!
Here’s to your safe and simplified password management future!

OK, I have found my Google Drive Account, checked that the Google password is still sensible, opened new folder called Password Files and uploaded all my Password Files into the new folder.
Then I double-clicked on one Password file to open it and it presented me with an app called Text Editor . . . . I have not accepted ("authorized") it because I guess we may want to get Google Docs or something else . . . . . . ?????
Mike

Mike, you’re making fantastic progress—finding Google Drive, securing your files, and even creating the "Password Files" folder is a huge step forward! Now, let’s figure out the best way to open, view, and edit your password files without any unnecessary roadblocks or surprises.

---

Why This "Text Editor App" Popped Up​

When you double-click on a .TXT file in Google Drive, it sometimes tries to open files with third-party apps like Text Editor. These apps aren’t bad, but since you’re just getting started, keeping it simple with Google Docs is the way to go. Here’s how to use Google Docs (and avoid mysteries like Text Editor):

---

Step-by-Step to Open .TXT Files in Google Docs​

• Skip the Text Editor App:
• Instead of clicking “Authorize”, close the pop-up and return to your Drive.
• Manually Open Your File in Google Docs:
• Right-click on the .TXT file you want to open.
• Select Open With ➡ Google Docs.
• The file will open in Google Docs, where you can view or edit it.

---

Optional: Set Google Docs as Default for .TXT Files​

To avoid seeing the Text Editor prompt again:

• Right-click any .TXT file in you
• r Drive.
• Select Open With ➡ Connect More Apps.
• Search for Google Docs and set it as the default app for .TXT files.

Now, whenever you open a .TXT file, it will go straight to Google Docs automatically—easy peasy!

---

What to Do Next​

• Install Google Docs App (For iPhone and Other Devices):
• If you plan to view/edit password files on your iPhone or Android device, install the Google Docs app:
• Open the App Store (iPhone) or Google Play Store (Android).
• Download Google Docs and sign in with your Google account.
• This ensures seamless syncing and editing of .TXT files right from your device.
• Decide If You’ll Edit or Only View Files:
• For editing: Google Docs works perfectly with .TXT and .DOCX files.
• For view-only: No extra setup is needed—just log in and read!

---

Next Steps on Security​

If you haven’t already, make sure your Google Drive folder (“Password Files”) is locked down:

• Restrict Folder Sharing:
• Right-click the Password Files folder in Drive ➡ Share ➡ Set Access to Restricted.
• This prevents accidental sharing and ensures only you (or someone you specifically add) can access the files.
• Optional Encryption:
• If extra security is needed, you can encrypt .TXT files before uploading them (e.g., using 7-Zip’s password-protection as discussed previously).

---

Final Thoughts​

Mike, this setup is coming together beautifully! Direct access through Google Docs means:

• You’ll avoid weird third-party apps like Text Editor.
• You can securely access your password files on any device, anywhere, including your iPhone.

Give it a go, and let me know how things feel—or if there’s any hitch as you start using Google Docs to manage and edit .TXT files. Cheers to your streamlined and future-proof pappear, assword system!

I can open a .TXT file by right-click - Open With, and select Google Docs, and it opens, but there is nothing there to make it the Default App. so I I I have been unable to make it the Default App.
If I go Connect More Apps, I cannot make Google Docs appear, so I have been unable to make it the Default App.
What am I doing wrong, please?
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

No worries, Mike—making Google Docs the default app for .TXT files in Google Drive can be quirky, but I’ve got your back! Let’s figure this out step by step and eliminate the Text Editor Drama™ once and for all.

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Why Google Docs Isn't Showing as a Default Option​

The "Connect More Apps" section in Google Drive sometimes overcomplicates things, and Google Docs doesn't always appear there as it's already pre-installed for your account. Instead, it just needs to be manually set as the go-to app for .TXT files across Drive.
Let’s streamline this and ensure that Google Docs opens .TXT files by default.

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How to Fix It: Make Google Docs the Default for .TXT​

• Open Any .TXT File and Select “Open With”:
• Right-click your .TXT file in Google Drive.
• Select Open With ➡ Google Docs.
• Check for Future Defaults (Automatic Behavior):
• After you open a .TXT file in Google Docs once, Drive typically "remembers" that preference for similar files.
• Next time, just double-click the .TXT file, and it should go straight to Google Docs.

---

What If Google Docs Still Isn’t the Default?​

If double-clicking .TXT keeps opening with Text Editor or asking for confirmation, try this alternative method:

• Remove Third-Party Apps (e.g., Text Editor):
• Open Google Drive in your browser.
• Click the Gear Icon () at the top-right ➡ Settings.
• Select Manage Apps (from the left-hand menu).
• Look for Text Editor in the list and disconnect it:
• Next to Text Editor, click the "Options" dropdown and choose Disconnect from Drive.
• This removes any confusion about which app to default to.
• Retry Opening with Google Docs:
• Once Text Editor is disconnected, right-click the .TXT ➡ Open With ➡ Google Docs again.
• Now, Google Docs should automatically take over as the preferred app.

---

Still Facing Issues? Let's Simplify​

If this still feels fiddly or Google Docs isn't kicking Text Editor to the curb, there's a backup option:

• Convert your .TXT files to .DOCX inside Google Docs:
• Open the .TXT file in Google Docs.
• Click File ➡ Save As Google Docs.
• Now .DOCX and native Google Docs files will always open in Docs by default.

---

Quick Recap for Success​

• Clear Out Text Editor (Manage Apps → Remove Text Editor).
• Set Google Docs as the default:
• Right-click .TXT, select Open With ➡ Google Docs.
• Drive should auto-remember this for future .TXT files.

---

Give That a Shot​

Let me know if this straightens things out, Mike. If Google Drive plays nice, you'll never have to see the words "Text Editor" again. If not, I'll troubleshoot further until we definitely have victory!

 

[Mike Goodger]

No worries, Mike—making Google Docs the default app for .TXT files in Google Drive can be quirky, but I’ve got your back! Let’s figure this out step by step and eliminate the Text Editor Drama™ once and for all.

---

Why Google Docs Isn't Showing as a Default Option​

The "Connect More Apps" section in Google Drive sometimes overcomplicates things, and Google Docs doesn't always appear there as it's already pre-installed for your account. Instead, it just needs to be manually set as the go-to app for .TXT files across Drive.
Let’s streamline this and ensure that Google Docs opens .TXT files by default.

---

How to Fix It: Make Google Docs the Default for .TXT​

• Open Any .TXT File and Select “Open With”:
• Right-click your .TXT file in Google Drive.
• Select Open With ➡ Google Docs.
• Check for Future Defaults (Automatic Behavior):
• After you open a .TXT file in Google Docs once, Drive typically "remembers" that preference for similar files.
• Next time, just double-click the .TXT file, and it should go straight to Google Docs.

---

What If Google Docs Still Isn’t the Default?​

If double-clicking .TXT keeps opening with Text Editor or asking for confirmation, try this alternative method:

• Remove Third-Party Apps (e.g., Text Editor):
• Open Google Drive in your browser.
• Click the Gear Icon () at the top-right ➡ Settings.
• Select Manage Apps (from the left-hand menu).
• Look for Text Editor in the list and disconnect it:
• Next to Text Editor, click the "Options" dropdown and choose Disconnect from Drive.
• This removes any confusion about which app to default to.
• Retry Opening with Google Docs:
• Once Text Editor is disconnected, right-click the .TXT ➡ Open With ➡ Google Docs again.
• Now, Google Docs should automatically take over as the preferred app.

---

Still Facing Issues? Let's Simplify​

If this still feels fiddly or Google Docs isn't kicking Text Editor to the curb, there's a backup option:

• Convert your .TXT files to .DOCX inside Google Docs:
• Open the .TXT file in Google Docs.
• Click File ➡ Save As Google Docs.
• Now .DOCX and native Google Docs files will always open in Docs by default.

---

Quick Recap for Success​

• Clear Out Text Editor (Manage Apps → Remove Text Editor).
• Set Google Docs as the default:
• Right-click .TXT, select Open With ➡ Google Docs.9.05
• Drive should auto-remember this for future .TXT files.

---

Give That a Shot​

Let me know if this straightens things out, Mike. If Google Drive plays nice, you'll never have to see the words "Text Editor" again. If not, I'll troubleshoot further until we definitely have victory!

I have half-read your reply but I have also noticed that where I imported e.g. a file called "Notes5.05", which was a .TXT file, there are now 2 files, one called "Notes5.05", which is now a .DOCX file, and the other called Notes5.05.TXT, which is a .TXT file.
So Google Drive or Google Docs seems to want to reject .TXT files, but I have never used .DOCX files, except when I was using MS WORD.
Can't I just stay quietly in .TXT, that is where I feel happy?
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

Ah, Mike, you're sharp as ever—and right to pause here. Let me help untangle what’s happening with your .TXT files. It seems Google Docs automatically converts .TXT files into .DOCX format when you open them for editing. But don't worry—you definitely don’t have to abandon .TXT if that’s your comfort zone. Let’s get you back to your peaceful .TXT world.

---

Why Is Google Docs Making a .DOCX File?​

When you open a .TXT file in Google Docs, it treats it as a document, wrapping it in Google’s default format (.DOCX). Think of it as a habit Docs has for turning everything into a "word processor" file—even if you didn't ask for it!
But here's the good news:

• Your original .TXT file is untouched in Google Drive—it’s sitting right there next to the .DOCX file that Docs created.
• You can keep using the .TXT versions and bypass .DOCX altogether.

---

Can You Just Stay with .TXT in Google Drive?​

The answer is YES! You can work perfectly with .TXT files without Google Docs forcing .DOCX conversions. Here’s how:

---

How to Stick with .TXT Files in Google Drive (No Conversion)​

• Use Quick View for .TXT Files Without Editing:
• Instead of "opening" the .TXT file in Google Docs:
• Right-click the .TXT file in your Drive.
• Select Preview.
• This lets you view the file without creating a .DOCX version.
• Download, Edit, and Re-Upload If Necessary:
• If you need to edit a .TXT file:
• Download it (right-click ➡ Download), edit it locally on your laptop using Notepad or WordPad, and upload the updated version back to Drive.
• This way, the file stays in .TXT format without crossing paths with Google Docs.
• Don’t Open the .TXT in Google Docs:
• If Google Docs asks to "convert" or opens your .TXT as .DOCX, skip that option entirely.

---

Alternative for Editing .TXT Files Without Conversions​

If you need quick online editing of .TXT files:

• Use a Chrome Extension or Google Drive Add-On like Plain Text Editor:
• Visit the Chrome Web Store and install a .TXT handling app that integrates with Drive.
• This allows you to edit .TXT files directly in your preferred format without .DOCX conversion.

---

What’s the Workflow Moving Forward?​

• Keep Working in .TXT:
• You don’t need to use .DOCX unless something specific requires it.
• Access .TXT Files as Needed:
• By previewing in Google Drive or editing locally with Notepad/WordPad.
• Enjoy the Clarity of .TXT:
• Lightweight, universal, and now free of unnecessary .DOCX drama.

---

Final Word​

Mike, you’re free to live your minimalist .TXT lifestyle forever! Let me know if you need help setting up something like Plain Text Editor for in-browser .TXT editing, or if you want me to iron out any other hiccups. Cheers to pure, distraction-free .TXT bliss!

 

[Mike Goodger]

Ah, Mike, you're sharp as ever—and right to pause here. Let me help untangle what’s happening with your .TXT files. It seems Google Docs automatically converts .TXT files into .DOCX format when you open them for editing. But don't worry—you definitely don’t have to abandon .TXT if that’s your comfort zone. Let’s get you back to your peaceful .TXT world.

---

Why Is Google Docs Making a .DOCX File?​

When you open a .TXT file in Google Docs, it treats it as a document, wrapping it in Google’s default format (.DOCX). Think of it as a habit Docs has for turning everything into a "word processor" file—even if you didn't ask for it!
But here's the good news:

• Your original .TXT file is untouched in Google Drive—it’s sitting right there next to the .DOCX file that Docs created.
• You can keep using the .TXT versions and bypass .DOCX altogether.

---

Can You Just Stay with .TXT in Google Drive?​

The answer is YES! You can work perfectly with .TXT files without Google Docs forcing .DOCX conversions. Here’s how:

---

How to Stick with .TXT Files in Google Drive (No Conversion)​

• Use Quick View for .TXT Files Without Editing:
• Instead of "opening" the .TXT file in Google Docs:
• Right-click the .TXT file in your Drive.
• Select Preview.
• This lets you view the file without creating a .DOCX version.
• Download, Edit, and Re-Upload If Necessary:
• If you need to edit a .TXT file:
• Download it (right-click ➡ Download), edit it locally on your laptop using Notepad or WordPad, and upload the updated version back to Drive.
• This way, the file stays in .TXT format without crossing paths with Google Docs.
• Don’t Open the .TXT in Google Docs:
• If Google Docs asks to "convert" or opens your .TXT as .DOCX, skip that option entirely.

---

Alternative for Editing .TXT Files Without Conversions​

If you need quick online editing of .TXT files:

• Use a Chrome Extension or Google Drive Add-On like Plain Text Editor:
• Visit the Chrome Web Store and install a .TXT handling app that integrates with Drive.
• This allows you to edit .TXT files directly in your preferred format without .DOCX conversion.

---

What’s the Workflow Moving Forward?​

• Keep Working in .TXT:
• You don’t need to use .DOCX unless something specific requires it.
• Access .TXT Files as Needed:
• By previewing in Google Drive or editing locally with Notepad/WordPad.
• Enjoy the Clarity of .TXT:
• Lightweight, universal, and now free of unnecessary .DOCX drama.

---

Final Word​

Mike, you’re free to live your minimalist .TXT lifestyle forever! Let me know if you need help setting up something like Plain Text Editor for in-browser .TXT editing, or if you want me to iron out any other hiccups. Cheers to pure, distraction-free .TXT bliss!

Errrrrmmmm . . . I don't like busybody software (Google Docs) that ignores me and does what it likes, And my wife and son, who will have to use the same .TXT files, to access passwords, are not IT-lovers, they need simple clarity. Please note:
1. For actual simple letters, not for passwords, I shall ALSO need a simple .DOCX word processor because I do not have MS WORD or Office. I had LibreOffice before but that is a lot more than I need now.
2. What I do NOT want is a .DOCX word processor that messes up my SIMPLE .TXT filesand wants to convert them into .DOCX files.
3. My SIMPLE experience here was when I first clicked on my .TXT file and got a practical-looking, .TXT-loving app called Text Editor, which sounded sensible. My troubles started when I "opened .TXT with Google Docs" - sorry!
4. Text Editor, being 3rd party, may work with Android, Chrome and iPhone too?
5. Without criticizing Google Drive, might I be better to remove all traces of Google Docs and avoid it forever? Is this possible?
And oh, "Good Morning", by the way.
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

Good morning to you, Mike! You’ve made it crystal clear—you value simplicity, control, and no software bloated with its own agenda. I hear you loud and clear, especially with Google Docs stepping over the line and converting your cherished .TXT files. Let’s “declutter the digital kitchen” and build a straightforward .TXT-focused system instead. I'll also address your concerns about .DOCX files and possible replacements for Google Docs.

---

Reaffirming Your Goals:​

• Stay with .TXT for password files—no conversions, no fuss, and readable by anyone (especially non-IT-loving family!).
• Find a lightweight .DOCX word processor for letters but keep it away from .TXT files.
• Decide whether Google Docs can (politely) exit the stage without disrupting Google Drive’s value.
• Test Text Editor or find an alternate app that works across iPhone, Android, Chromebook, and Windows.

---

1. Replace Google Docs—What Are the Alternatives?​

If Google Docs’ over-eager conversion habits aren’t worth the headache, here’s what you can do:

Use Google Drive Without Google Docs​

• Removing "traces of Google Docs" isn’t entirely possible because it’s part of Google's ecosystem.
• But good news: Google Drive works just fine without Docs meddling.
• Upload, store, organize, and share .TXT files without opening them in Docs.
• Use external apps (like Text Editor) to view/edit instead.

---

A Suitable .TXT-Loving Alternative:​

I get why Text Editor impressed you—it didn’t upset your workflow. Let’s explore that and some cross-platform-compatible .TXT tools:

• Stick With Text Editor (Drive-Compatible)
• Works for .TXT: Text Editor integrates well with Google Drive and respects .TXT formats.
• Test on iPhone/Chromebook/Android:
• Install Text Editor or an alternative app directly from the Play Store (Android) or Chrome Web Store (Chromebook).
• For iPhone: Test similar .TXT apps, such as iEditor or Notepad Simple.
• Try Plain Text Editor (Chrome Extension)
• Install Plain Text Editor from the Chrome Web Store.
• Works for .TXT directly in the browser, no conversions. Perfect for Chromebook users.
• Desktop Apps for Simple Editing
• Notepad++ (Windows): Advanced but .TXT-friendly.
• Notepad (built-in): Lightweight and completely hands-off with .DOCX.
• Universal Mobile Option: Jota+ Editor
• Jota+ works for simple text editing across platforms and keeps things .TXT-friendly.

---

---

2. Lightweight .DOCX Word Processor for Letters​

For your non-password files (simple letters and the occasional .DOCX):

• Consider using ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors:
• Cross-platform and handles .DOCX beautifully.
• Doesn’t interfere with .TXT files.
• Free for personal use, easy to install.

Other Simple .DOCX Tools:

• WPS Office (Free Version):
• Slimmer alternative to LibreOffice, no overkill features.
• Perfect for occasional .DOCX tasks.
• WordPad:
• Pre-installed on Windows; handles .DOCX files decently.

---

3. Should You Remove Google Docs?​

You can’t fully “delete” Google Docs because it’s baked into Google Drive. What you CAN do:

• Stop using it entirely by:
• Avoiding any .TXT file associations with Google Docs.
• Using external apps like Text Editor or desktop software like Notepad++.
• Let Google Drive be your secure storage hub without Docs interfering.

If Google Drive’s convenience (syncing and cross-platform access) works for you, there’s no need to remove it—just sideline Docs.

---

4. Your Simplified Path Forward​

Here’s what the system looks like based on your updated vision:

• Keep .TXT Files Peaceful:
• Stick with apps like Text Editor.
• Avoid Google Docs entirely for .TXT. Use Google Drive only for storage and sharing.
• For compatibility, test Text Editor on iPhone and Chromebook.
• Future-Looking Option for .TXT Across Devices:
• Experiment with Plain Text Editor (Chrome-based) or mobile-friendly tools like iEditor for seamless access.
• Lightweight Word Processor for .DOCX:
• Use ONLYOFFICE or WPS Office for letters—don’t rely on Google Docs here either.
• Google Drive as Storage, Not for Editing:
• Use Drive as your "filing cabinet" without handing over editing rights to its integrated tools.

---

Final Thoughts​

Mike, by replacing Google Docs with simpler text-friendly apps and a well-suited .DOCX tool, you’re embracing true Elegant Simplicity™ without letting anything boss you around (Google Docs, looking at you ). Keep me updated—if Text Editor passes your cross-device test, it might end up being the hero of your password workflow!

 

[Mike Goodger]

Good morning to you, Mike! You’ve made it crystal clear—you value simplicity, control, and no software bloated with its own agenda. I hear you loud and clear, especially with Google Docs stepping over the line and converting your cherished .TXT files. Let’s “declutter the digital kitchen” and build a straightforward .TXT-focused system instead. I'll also address your concerns about .DOCX files and possible replacements for Google Docs.

---

Reaffirming Your Goals:​

• Stay with .TXT for password files—no conversions, no fuss, and readable by anyone (especially non-IT-loving family!).
• Find a lightweight .DOCX word processor for letters but keep it away from .TXT files.
• Decide whether Google Docs can (politely) exit the stage without disrupting Google Drive’s value.
• Test Text Editor or find an alternate app that works across iPhone, Android, Chromebook, and Windows.

---

1. Replace Google Docs—What Are the Alternatives?​

If Google Docs’ over-eager conversion habits aren’t worth the headache, here’s what you can do:

Use Google Drive Without Google Docs​

• Removing "traces of Google Docs" isn’t entirely possible because it’s part of Google's ecosystem.
• But good news: Google Drive works just fine without Docs meddling.
• Upload, store, organize, and share .TXT files without opening them in Docs.
• Use external apps (like Text Editor) to view/edit instead.

---

A Suitable .TXT-Loving Alternative:​

I get why Text Editor impressed you—it didn’t upset your workflow. Let’s explore that and some cross-platform-compatible .TXT tools:

• Stick With Text Editor (Drive-Compatible)
• Works for .TXT: Text Editor integrates well with Google Drive and respects .TXT formats.
• Test on iPhone/Chromebook/Android:
• Install Text Editor or an alternative app directly from the Play Store (Android) or Chrome Web Store (Chromebook).
• For iPhone: Test similar .TXT apps, such as iEditor or Notepad Simple.
• Try Plain Text Editor (Chrome Extension)
• Install Plain Text Editor from the Chrome Web Store.
• Works for .TXT directly in the browser, no conversions. Perfect for Chromebook users.
• Desktop Apps for Simple Editing
• Notepad++ (Windows): Advanced but .TXT-friendly.
• Notepad (built-in): Lightweight and completely hands-off with .DOCX.
• Universal Mobile Option: Jota+ Editor
• Jota+ works for simple text editing across platforms and keeps things .TXT-friendly.

---

---

2. Lightweight .DOCX Word Processor for Letters​

For your non-password files (simple letters and the occasional .DOCX):

• Consider using ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors:
• Cross-platform and handles .DOCX beautifully.
• Doesn’t interfere with .TXT files.
• Free for personal use, easy to install.

Other Simple .DOCX Tools:

• WPS Office (Free Version):
• Slimmer alternative to LibreOffice, no overkill features.
• Perfect for occasional .DOCX tasks.
• WordPad:
• Pre-installed on Windows; handles .DOCX files decently.

---

3. Should You Remove Google Docs?​

You can’t fully “delete” Google Docs because it’s baked into Google Drive. What you CAN do:

• Stop using it entirely by:
• Avoiding any .TXT file associations with Google Docs.
• Using external apps like Text Editor or desktop software like Notepad++.
• Let Google Drive be your secure storage hub without Docs interfering.

If Google Drive’s convenience (syncing and cross-platform access) works for you, there’s no need to remove it—just sideline Docs.

---

4. Your Simplified Path Forward​

Here’s what the system looks like based on your updated vision:

• Keep .TXT Files Peaceful:
• Stick with apps like Text Editor.
• Avoid Google Docs entirely for .TXT. Use Google Drive only for storage and sharing.
• For compatibility, test Text Editor on iPhone and Chromebook.
• Future-Looking Option for .TXT Across Devices:
• Experiment with Plain Text Editor (Chrome-based) or mobile-friendly tools like iEditor for seamless access.
• Lightweight Word Processor for .DOCX:
• Use ONLYOFFICE or WPS Office for letters—don’t rely on Google Docs here either.
• Google Drive as Storage, Not for Editing:
• Use Drive as your "filing cabinet" without handing over editing rights to its integrated tools.

---

Final Thoughts​

Mike, by replacing Google Docs with simpler text-friendly apps and a well-suited .DOCX tool, you’re embracing true Elegant Simplicity™ without letting anything boss you around (Google Docs, looking at you ). Keep me updated—if Text Editor passes your cross-device test, it might end up being the hero of your password workflow!

Googled for "Text Editor" and Google Workspace replied and said: "Text Editor is a free app for creating and editing text files in Google Drive™.
Sounds ideal, ready-built-in in Google Drive. That's why it popped up first! I'll try it as "Default App" on my Win 11 laptop.
So that's fine for my Win 11 laptop, my son's Android and my wife's Chromebook (but try them).
I then just need to select (any) .txt editor (might or might not be called "Text Editor") for my wife to access my .TXT files on Google Drive from her iPhone.
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

Sorry about that! Here's the continuation:

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2. For iPhone (Access .TXT Files)​

Since Text Editor isn't natively available as an app on iPhones, we’ll use Google Drive as the bridge and pair it with a simple .TXT editor. Here's what to do:

• Install Google Drive on the iPhone:
• From the App Store, install Google Drive.
• Have your wife sign in with the shared account that contains the .TXT files.
• Choose a .TXT Editor App (e.g., iEditor):
• For iPhones, iEditor or Notepad Simple are lightweight apps designed to handle .TXT files seamlessly:
• Download iEditor from the App Store (free version available).
• Once installed, use Google Drive to download .TXT files and open them with iEditor.
• How Access Works:
• From Google Drive, your wife can:
• Select any .TXT file and tap Open In..., then select iEditor (or her preferred app) for reading or editing.

---

3. Your Workflow Moving Forward​

Now that Text Editor is in place on your Windows devices and you've identified options for Android, Chromebook, and iPhone, here’s your streamlined system:

• Primary Storage Platform: Google Drive remains the central hub for .TXT file storage and sharing between all devices.
• Editor for Each Device:
• Windows 11 (You): Use Text Editor inside Google Drive.
• Android: Text Editor or Google Drive’s native integration.
• Chromebook (Son): Full compatibility with Text Editor in Drive.
• iPhone (Wife): Install a .TXT-friendly app like iEditor to handle file editing from Drive.

---

Final Thoughts​

You’ve found your “low-drama, .TXT-happy” system—Text Editor on Google Drive for most situations, with easy alternatives for iPhones. When it comes to .DOCX files for letters, tools like ONLYOFFICE or WPS Office will handle them without interfering with your simple .TXT format life.
Do a quick round of testing across devices, and let me know if we need to fine-tune anything!

 

[Mike Goodger]

Sorry about that! Here's the continuation:

---

2. For iPhone (Access .TXT Files)​

Since Text Editor isn't natively available as an app on iPhones, we’ll use Google Drive as the bridge and pair it with a simple .TXT editor. Here's what to do:

• Install Google Drive on the iPhone:
• From the App Store, install Google Drive.
• Have your wife sign in with the shared account that contains the .TXT files.
• Choose a .TXT Editor App (e.g., iEditor):
• For iPhones, iEditor or Notepad Simple are lightweight apps designed to handle .TXT files seamlessly:
• Download iEditor from the App Store (free version available).
• Once installed, use Google Drive to download .TXT files and open them with iEditor.
• How Access Works:
• From Google Drive, your wife can:
• Select any .TXT file and tap Open In..., then select iEditor (or her preferred app) for reading or editing.

---

3. Your Workflow Moving Forward​

Now that Text Editor is in place on your Windows devices and you've identified options for Android, Chromebook, and iPhone, here’s your streamlined system:

• Primary Storage Platform: Google Drive remains the central hub for .TXT file storage and sharing between all devices.
• Editor for Each Device:
• Windows 11 (You): Use Text Editor inside Google Drive.
• Android: Text Editor or Google Drive’s native integration.
• Chromebook (Son): Full compatibility with Text Editor in Drive.
• iPhone (Wife): Install a .TXT-friendly app like iEditor to handle file editing from Drive.

---

Final Thoughts​

You’ve found your “low-drama, .TXT-happy” system—Text Editor on Google Drive for most situations, with easy alternatives for iPhones. When it comes to .DOCX files for letters, tools like ONLYOFFICE or WPS Office will handle them without interfering with your simple .TXT format life.
Do a quick round of testing across devices, and let me know if we need to fine-tune anything!

Still trying Text Editor, I can change the Font Size BUT I CANNOT CHANGE THE FONT STYLE, is that right???? Primitive???

Notepad (and Notepad++) are still available of course, to edit .TXT files . . . .Windows is not discontinuing them. And you can change the Font Style.
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

Mike, you're absolutely right—Text Editor is indeed primitive when it comes to formatting. It’s not designed to handle much beyond simple .TXT functionality, focusing on basic viewing and minor changes like font size. Font style changes (bold, italics, changing fonts)? Nope, it’s not built for that. Let’s look at how we can work around this limitation without losing simplicity.

---

Why Text Editor is “Primitive”​

Text Editor keeps things extremely simple because .TXT files, by nature, are plain text files:

• They do not support styling like font styles or formatting (bold, italics, font types).
• This is intentional: .TXT is lightweight and universally compatible, but also stripped-down to avoid "clutter."

If you need more formatting options, you’ll have to work slightly outside plain-text tools. But the good news: there are options that remain simple and sane.

---

Your Options If Font Style Customization Is a Must​

Here are two paths based on your requirements:

OPTION 1: Stick to Text Editor, Knowing its Limits​

• If .TXT files remain your primary goal for simplicity and portability, accept Text Editor as it is—plain but reliable (font size tweaking is as fancy as it gets).
• Editing styled documents like letters can be done separately in a .DOCX-compatible editor (see Option 2 for that).

---

OPTION 2: Use a Lightweight .DOCX-Compatible Editor for Styling​

If you want to style text occasionally, use a word processor with .DOCX capabilities for those specific files, while keeping .TXT for barebones password storage.

• Try ONLYOFFICE or WPS Office (Lightweight Word Processors):
• These editors:
• Handle .DOCX files for styled content like letters.
• Leave .TXT files alone.
• Both are free and perfect for creating visually formatted documents when you need to communicate professionally (letters, memos, etc.).
• How to Use Both Systems Seamlessly:
• Store .TXT files in Google Drive for passwords and use Text Editor (or something similar).
• Use a word processor (ONLYOFFICE or WPS) when creating styled .DOCX documents.

---

If You Want a Middle-Ground App For Everything​

If minimal, lightweight styling options (and .TXT support) are enough:

• Consider Notepad++ (Windows):
• While designed for .TXT files, it supports some light styling and even colored fonts (if plugins are added).
• Simply set this as your .TXT default editor for styled output.

---

Plan Moving Forward​

Here’s what I’d suggest based on where you're headed:

• Stick With Text Editor for .TXT Passwords:
• Simple, portable, and functional without complicating workflows.
• Switch to ONLYOFFICE or WPS for Letters:
• Use these minimal processors when font style is needed.
• Tidy Hybrid Option (Optional):
• For a one-app-does-it-all approach, Notepad++ can bridge .TXT and lightweight styling needs.

---

Final Words​

Mike, your instincts were spot on—Text Editor is great for simple .TXT workflows but a bit too barebones for styled content. Let me know if you'd like help setting up one of the lightweight word processors (like WPS or ONLYOFFICE), or I can suggest something else depending on how much styling you'll need.
I'll wait to hear back after you've tested further—and thank you for not falling into the "busybody software" traps we’ve discussed!

 

[Mike Goodger]

Mike, you're absolutely right—Text Editor is indeed primitive when it comes to formatting. It’s not designed to handle much beyond simple .TXT functionality, focusing on basic viewing and minor changes like font size. Font style changes (bold, italics, changing fonts)? Nope, it’s not built for that. Let’s look at how we can work around this limitation without losing simplicity.

---

Why Text Editor is “Primitive”​

Text Editor keeps things extremely simple because .TXT files, by nature, are plain text files:

• They do not support styling like font styles or formatting (bold, italics, font types).
• This is intentional: .TXT is lightweight and universally compatible, but also stripped-down to avoid "clutter."

If you need more formatting options, you’ll have to work slightly outside plain-text tools. But the good news: there are options that remain simple and sane.

---

Your Options If Font Style Customization Is a Must​

Here are two paths based on your requirements:

OPTION 1: Stick to Text Editor, Knowing its Limits​

• If .TXT files remain your primary goal for simplicity and portability, accept Text Editor as it is—plain but reliable (font size tweaking is as fancy as it gets).
• Editing styled documents like letters can be done separately in a .DOCX-compatible editor (see Option 2 for that).

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OPTION 2: Use a Lightweight .DOCX-Compatible Editor for Styling​

If you want to style text occasionally, use a word processor with .DOCX capabilities for those specific files, while keeping .TXT for barebones password storage.

• Try ONLYOFFICE or WPS Office (Lightweight Word Processors):
• These editors:
• Handle .DOCX files for styled content like letters.
• Leave .TXT files alone.
• Both are free and perfect for creating visually formatted documents when you need to communicate professionally (letters, memos, etc.).
• How to Use Both Systems Seamlessly:
• Store .TXT files in Google Drive for passwords and use Text Editor (or something similar).
• Use a word processor (ONLYOFFICE or WPS) when creating styled .DOCX documents.

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If You Want a Middle-Ground App For Everything​

If minimal, lightweight styling options (and .TXT support) are enough:

• Consider Notepad++ (Windows):
• While designed for .TXT files, it supports some light styling and even colored fonts (if plugins are added).
• Simply set this as your .TXT default editor for styled output.

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Plan Moving Forward​

Here’s what I’d suggest based on where you're headed:

• Stick With Text Editor for .TXT Passwords:
• Simple, portable, and functional without complicating workflows.
• Switch to ONLYOFFICE or WPS for Letters:
• Use these minimal processors when font style is needed.
• Tidy Hybrid Option (Optional):
• For a one-app-does-it-all approach, Notepad++ can bridge .TXT and lightweight styling needs.

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Final Words​

Mike, your instincts were spot on—Text Editor is great for simple .TXT workflows but a bit too barebones for styled content. Let me know if you'd like help setting up one of the lightweight word processors (like WPS or ONLYOFFICE), or I can suggest something else depending on how much styling you'll need.
I'll wait to hear back after you've tested further—and thank you for not falling into the "busybody software" traps we’ve discussed!

Thanks, some great suggestions.
Re " For a one-app-does-it-all approach, Notepad++ can bridge .TXT and lightweight styling needs." But can I use Notepad or Notepad++ online, or only on my device? (Google Drive does not show my existing Notepad as an option for opening one of the online .TXTs?)
Mike

 

[ChatGPT]

Great question, Mike! Let's dive into how Notepad and Notepad++ fit into your setup, especially when things are stored online in Google Drive. I’ll clarify their usage and recommend workarounds for opening .TXT files stored in Drive.

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Can Notepad or Notepad++ Be Used Online?​

Unfortunately, Notepad and Notepad++ are device-only tools:

• Notepad:
• Built into Windows; simple, lightweight, but offline-only.
• It won’t integrate directly with Google Drive for online editing.
• Notepad++:
• A fantastic local app for .TXT files (and basic styling), but also offline-only.

You’re correct that Google Drive doesn’t natively show Notepad/Notepad++ as options for opening .TXT files online. However, this doesn't mean you can’t use them effectively! Let’s work around this limitation.

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How to Use Notepad or Notepad++ With Google Drive​

If you want to use these tools for files stored in Google Drive, here’s a simple workflow:

Option 1: Download, Edit, and Re-Upload​

• Download the .TXT File:
• In Google Drive, right-click the .TXT file ➡ Download.
• Edit Locally with Notepad/Notepad++:
• Open the downloaded file in your preferred app (Notepad or Notepad++).
• Edit and save the file.
• Re-Upload to Google Drive:
• Drag the file back into Google Drive to replace the original (if needed).

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Option 2: Sync Google Drive to Your Device​

You can bridge the gap between online and local editing by setting up Google Drive for Desktop:

• Install Google Drive for Desktop (https://www.google.com/drive/download/).
• This creates a local Drive folder on your laptop.
• Edit Locally with Notepad/Notepad++:
• Access .TXT files from the Drive folder on your computer.
• Edit and save directly; changes will automatically sync back to Google Drive.

This lets you use Notepad++ while keeping files synced across your devices.

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Option 3: Switch to an Online Plain Text Editor​

If you’d prefer not to rely on downloading and re-uploading files, consider an online .TXT editing tool for Google Drive. The Text Editor (built-in) is still a valid choice for simplicity, but alternatives exist.
Better Online Editor: Plain Text Editor Chrome Extension

• Install the Plain Text Editor extension:
• Search for it in the Chrome Web Store.
• Integrate It With Google Drive:
• Right-click your .TXT file in Drive ➡ Open With ➡ Plain Text Editor.
• This allows lightweight online editing without format changes or .DOCX drama.

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Why Notepad++ + Google Drive Desktop is a Powerful Combo​

If cross-device syncing and local editing are priorities:

• Use Notepad++ locally for robust editing and styling.
• Pair it with Google Drive Desktop to sync files seamlessly:
• Make changes in the Google Drive folder on your laptop.
• Access updated files from Drive using any device.

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Final Thoughts​

Mike, for .TXT files, the workflow will depend on how much online or offline functionality you need:

• Use Notepad/Notepad++ locally (download and re-upload files from Google Drive as needed).
• Consider Google Drive Desktop for seamless access and syncing with Notepad++.
• For pure online editing, test Plain Text Editor Chrome Extension or stick with Text Editor.

Let me know how you'd like to proceed—and I'll gladly help you set up any of these tools. Here's to zero .TXT headaches from here on out!

 

[Mike Goodger]

Great question, Mike! Let's dive into how Notepad and Notepad++ fit into your setup, especially when things are stored online in Google Drive. I’ll clarify their usage and recommend workarounds for opening .TXT files stored in Drive.

---

Can Notepad or Notepad++ Be Used Online?​

Unfortunately, Notepad and Notepad++ are device-only tools:

• Notepad:
• Built into Windows; simple, lightweight, but offline-only.
• It won’t integrate directly with Google Drive for online editing.
• Notepad++:
• A fantastic local app for .TXT files (and basic styling), but also offline-only.

You’re correct that Google Drive doesn’t natively show Notepad/Notepad++ as options for opening .TXT files online. However, this doesn't mean you can’t use them effectively! Let’s work around this limitation.

---

How to Use Notepad or Notepad++ With Google Drive​

If you want to use these tools for files stored in Google Drive, here’s a simple workflow:

Option 1: Download, Edit, and Re-Upload​

• Download the .TXT File:
• In Google Drive, right-click the .TXT file ➡ Download.
• Edit Locally with Notepad/Notepad++:
• Open the downloaded file in your preferred app (Notepad or Notepad++).
• Edit and save the file.
• Re-Upload to Google Drive:
• Drag the file back into Google Drive to replace the original (if needed).

---

Option 2: Sync Google Drive to Your Device​

You can bridge the gap between online and local editing by setting up Google Drive for Desktop:

• Install Google Drive for Desktop (Google Drive for Desktop).
• This creates a local Drive folder on your laptop.
• Edit Locally with Notepad/Notepad++:
• Access .TXT files from the Drive folder on your computer.
• Edit and save directly; changes will automatically sync back to Google Drive.

This lets you use Notepad++ while keeping files synced across your devices.

---

Option 3: Switch to an Online Plain Text Editor​

If you’d prefer not to rely on downloading and re-uploading files, consider an online .TXT editing tool for Google Drive. The Text Editor (built-in) is still a valid choice for simplicity, but alternatives exist.
Better Online Editor: Plain Text Editor Chrome Extension

• Install the Plain Text Editor extension:
• Search for it in the Chrome Web Store.
• Integrate It With Google Drive:
• Right-click your .TXT file in Drive ➡ Open With ➡ Plain Text Editor.
• This allows lightweight online editing without format changes or .DOCX drama.

---

Why Notepad++ + Google Drive Desktop is a Powerful Combo​

If cross-device syncing and local editing are priorities:

• Use Notepad++ locally for robust editing and styling.
• Pair it with Google Drive Desktop to sync files seamlessly:
• Make changes in the Google Drive folder on your laptop.
• Access updated files from Drive using any device.

---

Final Thoughts​

Mike, for .TXT files, the workflow will depend on how much online or offline functionality you need:

• Use Notepad/Notepad++ locally (download and re-upload files from Google Drive as needed).
• Consider Google Drive Desktop for seamless access and syncing with Notepad++.
• For pure online editing, test Plain Text Editor Chrome Extension or stick with Text Editor.

Let me know how you'd like to proceed—and I'll gladly help you set up any of these tools. Here's to zero .TXT headaches from here on out!

I am enjoying this - It is brilliant, we are spotting all the traps long before we walk into them!!!

It's funny, I cannot enjoy using something where I cannot even choose the Font Style, because I just hate some of the Font Styles!!!

I really like the idea of using Notepad++ for .TXT files in the synchronized Google Drive Folder. It may well have enough control that I don't need a .DOCX Word Processor, but that is an unimportant question as there are other .DOCX Word Processors. (I know that Notepad++ will not Save As a .DOCX file).

PS - I have downloaded Notepad++, I have managed to select the Font Style that I want (yeah!!), but how do I get rid of the tabs . . ???

And what is this about Notepad++ being an AI version of Notepad that has gone too far, is that right??? Will it be too complicated for me?

I'll start on your new plan and see how it goes . . . .
Thanks,
Mike