Weird problem at start up

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  1. zunami

    zunami New Member

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    Hello,

    My problem is a weird one, often (but far from always) when I start up my PC, at the bios screen when it's still booting, it suddenly starts making these horribly loud beeping noises. The only way to stop them, is to hold down either mouse-key's, but this doesn't work for more than a few seconds. Eventually, the noises stop and the computer moves on to a screen where I have to tell it to load Windows 7, being the only OS installed on the PC.

    Apart from that issue, the PC runs just fine.

    I have noticed one other thing that may be connected. These past weeks, the PC has always had 1 update to install whenever I shut down, and I remember that the PC got stuck installing a particular update some weeks back, and that might have been before the problems began.

    My PC is running windows 7 ultra 64 bit, it's an intel dual core processor, with an ATI graphics card about 6 gm ram, but apart from that I wouldn't really know my systems specification. I could copy-paste a dx-diag into a post if that would be helpful.
     
  2. davehc

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    I doubt the waiting update would cause the beeping at the Bios screen. But. the "horrible" beeps you are experiencing are, in most bios', an indication of a fault in the bios or motherboard. They are coded. Could you try and ascertain if you here, for example, two beeps, one beep or any combination of beeps. We can then, possibly, help.
     
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    As davehc says, it is almost certainly a code used by the bios to signal a problem. To enlarge a bit, the code and its interprretation depends on the make of the bios but it is typically a sequence of long and/or short beeps and to interpret it correctly you need to note exactly what beep pattern you are getting.
     
  4. zunami

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    Aw man, you have to be kidding me? All I do when I hear that noise is cover my ears and try to make it stop. Alright, I'll try to figure a pattern.

    As far as I've been able to tell so far, it's really fast paced, one beep begins before the next one has stopped, but each beep is somewhat long-drawn. There is no deviation in the noise-pattern, unless of course I press and hold either mouse-key.

    To describe it in a more simplistic way, it sounds less like R2-D2 and more like a "red alert" gone off. It tends to remind me a lot of an alarm-clock.
     
  5. zunami

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    Also, you talked about the make of my bios. I'm not sure, but while my bios is "loading" or what ever, there is an "intel" wait screen. I assume that means my motherboard is of that make, and for all I know, I guess that might be the make of my bios too.
     
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    Not necessarily - when your pc initial starts press the F2 key to enter the bios setup - the initial page should show the name of the bios manufacturer.
     
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    I'll try to get you this information too
     
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    I couldn't exactly find a name of the bios manufacturer to be honest. I did find the bios version which is: BX97510J.86A.1487.2007.0902.1724

    Could you tell me where the name should be listed? I hit F2 during startup like I was told, which got me into the bios menu, but from there I wasn't able to recover the information you asked for.
     
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    Hi zunami, If you download and install Speccy, This will give you a lot of information about your system. But from that number it looks as though your Bios is from 2007! and it's the latest! But actual Mobo Make/name/model number is far better info.
     
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    Hey guys, thanks for answering. I was pretty sure that it was an intel bios after all :) Glad to hear I'm not as technically-retarded as I was starting to suspect.

    I'm looking at the beep codes and I just don't really see it here.

    I guess it COULD technically be the first option or the third or forth listed, but to be honest, it just doesn't seem like that.

    Looking at the last listed option, where it says "x beeps means this", I'm guessing if I actually managed to count the beeps, I could use that for something, but the thing is, it jardly sounds like individual beeps, it's pretty hectic and fast paced, and sounds more like a siren than a sort of morse-code. The next time the problem occurs, I'll try my best to count, or record it. Just to be clear, it's the sort of beeping that makes you worry that the machine is going to blow.. Or at least, for me it is :D

    Just downloaded that program, speccy, and here's what it told me :)

    First tab:
    Operating System
    MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 54 °C
    Kentsfield 65nm Technology
    RAM
    4,00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz (4-4-4-12)
    Motherboard
    Intel Corporation D975XBX (J3E1) 55 °C
    Graphics
    SAMSUNG (1600x900@59Hz)
    ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (ATI) 36 °C
    Hard Drives
    977GB Western Digital WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device (SATA) 28 °C
    Optical Drives
    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50 ATA Device
    OXGXUD WTEFKPYB49 SCSI CdRom Device
    OXGXUD WTEFKPYB49 SCSI CdRom Device
    HUAWEI Mass Storage USB Device
    Audio
    AMD High Definition Audio Device

    Second tab:
    Operating System
    MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
    Installation Date: 09 March 2011, 16:09
    Serial Number: (removed)
    Windows Security Center
    User Account Control (UAC) Disabled
    Firewall Disabled
    Antivirus Disabled
    Windows Update
    AutoUpdate Download Automatically and Install at Set Scheduled time
    Schedule Frequency Every day
    Schedule Time 3 am
    Windows Defender
    Windows Defender Disabled
    Environment Variables
    USERPROFILE C:\Users\Sami
    SystemRoot C:\Windows
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    Machine Variables
    Battery
    AC line Online
    Battery full time Unknown
    Battery Charge % Unknown
    Battery State No Battery
    Amount of time remaining (sec) Unknown
    Power Profile
    Active power scheme Home/Office Desk
    Hibernation Enabled
    Power Shutdown Enabled
    Power Suspend Enabled
    Turn Off Monitor after: (On AC Power) 20 min
    Turn Off Monitor after: (On Battery Power) 5 min
    Turn Off Hard Disk after: (On AC Power) Never
    Turn Off Hard Disk after: (On Battery Power) 10 min
    Suspend after: (On AC Power) Never
    Suspend after: (On Battery Power) 5 min
    Screen saver Disabled
    Uptime
    Current Session
    Current Time 02-12-2011 12:09:44
    Current Uptime 696 sec (0 d, 00 h, 11 m, 36 s)
    Last Boot Time 02-12-2011 11:58:08
    TimeZone
    TimeZone GMT +1 Hours
    Language Danish
    Country Danmark
    Currency kr.
    Date Format dd-MM-yyyy
    Time Format HH:mm:ss
    Scheduler
    Process List
    Hotfixes
    System Folders
    Device Tree
    Services

    Third tab:
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
    Cores 4
    Threads 4
    Name Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
    Code Name Kentsfield
    Package Socket 775 LGA
    Technology 65nm
    Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
    Family 6
    Extended Family 6
    Model F
    Extended Model F
    Stepping B
    Revision G0
    Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, Intel 64
    Virtualization Supported, Enabled
    Hyperthreading Not supported
    Fan Speed 906 RPM
    Bus Speed 266.4 MHz
    Rated Bus Speed 1065.5 MHz
    Stock Core Speed 2400 MHz
    Stock Bus Speed 266 MHz
    Average Temperature 54 °C
    Caches
    L1 Data Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes
    L1 Instructions Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes
    L2 Unified Cache Size 2 x 4096 KBytes
    Core 0
    Core 1
    Core 2
    Core 3

    Forth tab:
    RAM
    Memory slots
    Total memory slots 4
    Used memory slots 4
    Free memory slots 0
    Memory
    Type DDR2
    Size 4096 MBytes
    Channels # Dual
    DRAM Frequency 399.5 MHz
    CAS# Latency (CL) 4 clocks
    RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 4 clocks
    RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4 clocks
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 12 clocks
    Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 20 clocks
    Physical Memory
    Memory Usage 46 %
    Total Physical 4.00 GB
    Available Physical 2.12 GB
    Total Virtual 7.99 GB
    Available Virtual 5.31 GB
    SPD
    Number Of SPD Modules 4
    Slot #1
    Slot #2
    Slot #3
    Slot #4

    Fifth tab:
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Intel Corporation
    Model D975XBX (J3E1)
    Chipset Vendor Intel
    Chipset Model i975X
    Chipset Revision A0
    Southbridge Vendor Intel
    Southbridge Model 82801GB (ICH7/R)
    Southbridge Revision A1
    System Temperature 58 °C
    BIOS
    Brand Intel Corp.
    Version BX97510J.86A.1487.2007.0902.1724
    Date 09/02/2007
    Voltage
    +1.5V 1.497 V
    CPU CORE 1.165 V
    ATX +3.3V 3.298 V
    ATX +5V 5.078 V
    ATX +12V 12.298 V
    PCI Data
    Slot PCI-E
    Slot Type PCI-E
    Slot Usage In Use
    Bus Width Unknown
    Slot Designation PCIE X16 SLOT
    Slot Number 0
    Slot PCI-E
    Slot Type PCI-E
    Slot Usage Available
    Bus Width Unknown
    Slot Designation PCIE X8 SLOT
    Slot Number 1
    Slot PCI
    Slot Type PCI
    Slot Usage Available
    Bus Width 32 bit
    Slot Designation PCI SLOT 1
    Slot Number 2
    Slot PCI-E
    Slot Type PCI-E
    Slot Usage Available
    Bus Width Unknown
    Slot Designation PCIE X4 SLOT
    Slot Number 3
    Slot PCI
    Slot Type PCI
    Slot Usage In Use
    Bus Width 32 bit
    Slot Designation PCI SLOT 2
    Slot Number 4

    Sixth tab:
    Graphics
    Monitor
    Name SAMSUNG on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
    Current Resolution 1600x900 pixels
    Work Resolution 1600x860 pixels
    State enabled, primary, output devices support
    Monitor Width 1600
    Monitor Height 900
    Monitor BPP 32 bits per pixel
    Monitor Frequency 59 Hz
    Device \\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0
    ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
    GPU Juniper
    Device ID 1002-68B8
    Subvendor ATI (1002)
    Current Performance Level Level 1
    Current GPU Clock 156 MHz
    Current Memory Clock 300 MHz
    Voltage 0.950 V
    Technology 41 nm
    Die Size 40 nm²
    Release Date Oct 13, 2009
    DirectX Support 11.0
    OpenGL Support 5.0
    Bios Core Clock 850.00
    Bios Mem Clock 1200.00
    Temperature 37 °C
    Core Voltage 1.000 V
    BIOS Version 113-E14701-X05
    ROPs 16
    Shaders 800 unified
    Memory Type GDDR5
    Bus Width 64x2 (128 bit)
    Pixel Fillrate 9.6 GPixels/s
    Texture Fillrate 0.0 GTexels/s
    Noise Level Moderate
    Max Power Draw 108 Watts
    Count of performance levels : 1
    Level 1
    GPU Clock 599 MHz
    Memory Clock 1200 MHz
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    Version 4.1.10524 Compatibility Profile Context
    Vendor ATI Technologies Inc.
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    GLU Version 1.2.2.0 Microsoft Corporation
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    GL_MAX_LIGHTS 8
    GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE 16384
    GL_MAX_TEXTURE_STACK_DEPTH 10
    GL Extensions
    GLU Extensions

    Seventh tab:
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device
    Manufacturer Western Digital
    Form Factor TB/3.5-inch (new format)
    Business Unit/Brand Desktop/WD Caviar®
    Heads 16
    Cylinders 16383
    SATA type SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
    Device type Fixed
    ATA Standard ATA8-ACS
    LBA Size 48-bit LBA
    Power On Count 202 times
    Power On Time 72.5 days
    Features S.M.A.R.T., AAM, NCQ
    Transfer Mode SATA III
    Interface SATA
    Capacity 977GB
    Real size 1.000.204.886.016 bytes
    RAID Type None
    S.M.A.R.T
    01 Read Error Rate 200 (200 worst) Data 0000000000
    03 Spin-Up Time 171 (171) Data 0000001138
    04 Start/Stop Count 100 (100) Data 00000000D5
    05 Reallocated Sectors Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
    07 Seek Error Rate 200 (200) Data 0000000000
    09 Power-On Hours (POH) 098 (098) Data 00000006CC
    0A Spin Retry Count 100 (100) Data 0000000000
    0B Recalibration Retries 100 (100) Data 0000000000
    0C Device Power Cycle Count 100 (100) Data 00000000CA
    C0 Power-off Retract Count 200 (200) Data 000000000E
    C1 Load/Unload Cycle Count 200 (200) Data 00000000C6
    C2 Temperature 117 (099) Data 000000001E
    C4 Reallocation Event Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
    C5 Current Pending Sector Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
    C6 Uncorrectable Sector Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
    C7 UltraDMA CRC Error Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
    C8 Write Error Rate / Multi-Zone Error Rate 200 (200) Data 0000000000
    Temperature 30 °C
    Temperature Range ok (less than 50 °C)
    Status Good
    Partition 0
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    Partition ID Disk #0, Partition #1
    Disk Letter C:
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    Volume Serial Number 5486C4F7
    Size 931GB
    Used Space 439GB (48%)
    Free Space 492GB (52%)

    Eight tab:
    Optical Drives
    HUAWEI Mass Storage USB Device
    Media Type UNKNOWN
    Name HUAWEI Mass Storage USB Device
    Availability Running/Full Power
    Capabilities Random Access, Supports Removable Media
    Config Manager Error Code Device is working properly
    Config Manager User Config FALSE
    Drive E:
    DriveIntegrity TRUE
    Media Loaded TRUE
    Size 20,2 MB
    Status OK
    Transfer Rate 4085 KB/S
    Volume Name 3Connect
    Volume Serial Number C0487CA0
    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50 ATA Device
    Media Type DVD Writer
    Name HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50 ATA Device
    Availability Running/Full Power
    Capabilities Random Access, Supports Writing, Supports Removable Media
    Config Manager Error Code Device is working properly
    Config Manager User Config FALSE
    Drive D:
    Media Loaded FALSE
    SCSI Bus 0
    SCSI Logical Unit 0
    SCSI Port 1
    SCSI Target Id 1
    Status OK
    OXGXUD WTEFKPYB49 SCSI CdRom Device
    Media Type DVD-ROM
    Name OXGXUD WTEFKPYB49 SCSI CdRom Device
    Availability Running/Full Power
    Capabilities Random Access, Supports Removable Media
    Config Manager Error Code Device is working properly
    Config Manager User Config FALSE
    Drive F:
    Media Loaded FALSE
    SCSI Bus 0
    SCSI Logical Unit 0
    SCSI Port 3
    SCSI Target Id 0
    Status OK
    OXGXUD WTEFKPYB49 SCSI CdRom Device
    Media Type DVD-ROM
    Name OXGXUD WTEFKPYB49 SCSI CdRom Device
    Availability Running/Full Power
    Capabilities Random Access, Supports Removable Media
    Config Manager Error Code Device is working properly
    Config Manager User Config FALSE
    Drive H:
    Media Loaded FALSE
    SCSI Bus 0
    SCSI Logical Unit 0
    SCSI Port 3
    SCSI Target Id 1
    Status OK

    Ninth tab:
    Audio
    Sound Cards
    AMD High Definition Audio Device
    High Definition Audio Device
    Playback Devices
    Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) (default)
    AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Definition Audio Device)
    Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
    Recording Devices
    Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
    Microphone (High Definition Audio Device) (default)
    Microphone (High Definition Audio Device) (default)

    Tenth tab:
    Peripherals
    HID Keyboard Device
    Device Kind Keyboard
    Device Name HID Keyboard Device
    Vendor Unknown
    Location USB Input Device
    Driver
    Logitech USB WheelMouse
    Device Kind Mouse
    Device Name Logitech USB WheelMouse
    Vendor Logitech
    Location Logitech USB WheelMouse
    Driver
    Disk drive
    Device Kind USB storage
    Device Name Disk drive
    Vendor HUAWEI
    Comment HUAWEI SD Storage USB Device
    Location USB Mass Storage Device
    Driver
    Printers
    Fax
    Printer Port SHRFAX:
    Print Processor winprint
    Availability Always
    Priority 1
    Duplex None
    Print Quality 200 * 200 dpi Monochrome
    Status Unknown
    Driver
    Microsoft XPS Document Writer (Default Printer)
    Printer Port XPSPort:
    Print Processor winprint
    Availability Always
    Priority 1
    Duplex None
    Print Quality 600 * 600 dpi Color
    Status Unknown
    Driver

    Eleventh tab:
    ... You know what? I'm pretty sure I just figured out that the last few tabs were pretty much non-important, all together.

    Also, note that it says my system is completely unprotected. It's not, I just use my own anti virus program (bit defender)
     
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  12. zunami

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    Okay, it took a good long while, before the problem occurred again, but I listened for a while to the beeps.

    They aren't anything like the ones you've suggested. There doesn't seem to be any pattern, it's just a continuous beeping, very loud and fast paced. Much like a siren as earlier described. I tried counting the beeps, but seriously, it continues for waaaaay longer than any beep combinations you've suggested, and it'd incredibly difficult to count due to the fast pace, and current rareness of the error.

    Do any of you people have ANY clue what so ever, to what could be causing this?
     
  13. davehc

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    Sorry. Not a clue here. But, if you have the knowledge, I would take every component/card out of the computer and give it a clean and check the reinsertion (particularly Ram). My own theory, fwiw, is that you have a dry or dirty joint on a contact, which is easing as the machine warms up. pressing the mouse is merely stifling the sound card and is a bit of a red herring..
     
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  14. zunami

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    Well, obviously something is wrong, but the problem isn't so extensive, I mean, the PC runs perfectly apart from that, after all.
    If anyone else thinks of anything, let me know.

    I guess I could give it a clean, but to be honest, I'm a bit too afraid of making it worse.

    I asked the guy who helped me build this thing, and he told me that, the motherboard we used didn't come with any manual for proper installation, and that nothing was available on-line, so when he connected the different cords to the board, it was actually by trial and error. Is it possible that this sound is simply caused by a component which has been plugged in wrong? I wouldn't be able to fix this myself as I have no knowledge of this, but I just recently remembered these details.

    Also, I believe the motherboard is a bit older than the rest of the parts in the PC, and I'm pretty sure we salvaged it from a computer that was fully operational, but not in use.

    As a last option, I remember there were a few issues with the sound-card just when we got the PC up and running. Is it possible that it might actually be a problem with the sound card, causing this? I haven't had any problems with it since, unless this is in fact a such problem.
     

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