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  1. kemical

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    Let us know what you think Joe.. I for one like it on the whole although I wish they'd sort the Windows update app. This one seems worst than the one contained in build 9926
     
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    Anyone using the latest Build (10041) and has a DX12 capable gpu as well as a 3DMark licence can now download the app as it's been updated with it's own DX12/Mantle benchmark.

    http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark#api-overhead
     
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    Been testing the new DX12 API:
    dx12.JPG

    Just look at the difference between draw calls...Huge! This is going to be a revolution in terms of gaming and related apps.
    dx12a.JPG
     
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    A new Build people and includes Spartan too..
    http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-releases-windows-10-build-10049-insiders-includes-spartan-and-more

    If you try downloading and nothing happens (via WU) then go to advanced options and change to the 'Fast Ring'.
     
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    Microsoft Spartan


    ref:
    http://www.winbeta.org/news/project-spartan-debuts-windows-10-build-10049-aims-be-amazing-browser
     
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    You say that, like it's a good thing. :)
     
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    :D Not terribly impressive is it...
     
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    Personally I wish they would have waited until it was a bit more polished.
    I can see the need for a new, more robust browser, that's both lean and feature rich. That would be a good thing.
    What I can't see, is any need for it to have been included in or in any way associated with Windows 10.
    AND
    What I simply can't believe, is that a software giant such as Microsoft can't seem to produce a browser product that is equal to (never mind superior to) other browser products on the market. It seems that they can't manage to get out of their own way.
    Ya think?

    SOURCE: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/30/windows-10-technical-preview-build-10049-now-available/
     
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    Agreed. A more polished product would have been better but perhaps they wanted feedback before moving forward.??
     
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    Trouble's last para hits the mark!
    MS have been working on this, based on their own news flashes, for at least 6 months, possibly much longer. We are talking about a software giant above other giants here. Is that the best piece of software they can come up with so far? It is not innovative in program technique or practical use, so the base for working on was already there.
    Frankly, for me it is a big let down. Something rotten in the establishment at the moment, I fear.
    As an aside, I have had a look around the OS and, for reasons which are not clear, Spartan has infiltrated the build in a huge number of paths. It looks, at first hand, that there are too many cooks working on the project, lacking inter communication.
     
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    Build 10051 was recently leaked. Rather than download it you can check it out right here:
     
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    I'm not that impressed with it either. I thought by now it would begin to look more like a finished product. If their goal is to release before school starts in the fall they've got a lot of work to do.
    Joe
     
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    Well, I've gone back to 41, and put myself on the slow ring.
     
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    Recent updates for Build 10049:
    ref:
    http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-build-10049-receives-hyper-v-and-outlook-fixes-new-updates
     
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    Yes, the fact that hyper-v gives an error but vmware is happy was probably a bit embarrassing for Microsoft.
     
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    I downloaded the Build 10049 via WU but when it asked me to reboot I delayed it by an hour. This gave me time to create an ISO file from the ESD files and so I then clean installed.
    So far so good really.. Running has been relatively smooth with the odd bsod here and there although to be fair that was testing a new monitoring beta called CAM 2.0 from NZXT. Clearly it isn't ready for Windows 10 although I haven't tried compatibility mode yet.

    As for Spartan... It needs some work. I found it hard to be inspired by what I saw although it is early days. Being able to write on the web page is handy I guess but couldn't they just have added that to IE? I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see anything yet that detracts it wildly from Internet Explorer. Hopefully the full version will amaze us but we'll have to wait and see..
     
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    Good one. fwiw. The ESD file will remain (forever) until you manually delete it.

    For Spartan, I confess a lack of interest. I use Chrome, which is identical and feature finished - and also free.
     
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    Same here.. Chrome user. It just does what it's supposed to as well as looking great too.
     
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    In build 10051, Spartan was cleaned up some. Such things as the Favorites bar being cut off at the bottom has been fixed. It also put back Windows Mail, which does Pop servers. So I don't have to download Thunderbird...

    There is a lot of talk about Spartan, but I am still unclear exactly why all the hype. I see Kemical's posts about what it can do, but when I find articles, the main focus seems to be making websites compatible and the "Rendering" engine, Edge. Such abilities as drawing on a web page will only be usable with touchscreens, and I haven't seen the price on those drop very much. Even a 12 inch Surface 3 Pro is selling for around $2000. Even with the better processor, I can't see how they could justify that price point.

    I would think "Rendering" would mean video, but I don't think like a web developer so it may mean more than rendering video, anyone know?

    It also seems to open many TCP connections. A couple of processes and multiple ports for each one. Maybe this is something being done for testing, not sure.

    Overall I have not really seen anything in 10 which would make me want to change. I am probably being influenced by the bugs still prevalent in the builds so a bug free version might help.
     
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    Rendering is taking the input (touch screen, large image, maths formula calculated against a variable or pre-set code) and drawing it on the screen as a 2,3 or 4 dimensional shape… video tends to be the most demanding type of rendering because there is a time factor but any image can be rendered to the screen.

    At the moment, a typical web design is made for desktop first (allowing for both square and wide screen) then the same site is redesigned to give a version for people with mobile phones and finally tablets… ime tablets only get their own design when the customer is marketing themselves at a tablet market but each of these 3 possible websites supports the defaults; firefox, chrome and internet explorer.

    Now at this point presumably I'll have to use some Microsoft licensed software to then make 3 new (desktop, phone and tablet) copies of the site for the people that want to use Spartan… remember the Frontpage glory days?
     

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