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  1. kemical

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    The operating system which many thought was going to be Windows 9 is in fact going to be called Windows 10.
    The preview is apparently available tomorrow 1st October 2014.
    Why the sudden change from windows 9 to windows 10? If the hype is to be believed then Windows 10 is such a change from previous operating systems that it needed an extra digit:
    Ref:
    http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-10-unveiled-microsoft-ushers-in-the-next-era-of-windows-1267199



    Ref:
    http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/30/6868899/windows-10-availability-technical-preview-tomorrow


    Guru3D also ran a big article today on Windows 10:
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    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/microsoft-skips-windows-9its-now-windows-10.html

    Signing up for Windows 10.

    Many users will be wanting to know where they can get their hands on a copy of Windows 10 Preview. Luckily for us Mary Jo Foley has an article which includes the process of signing up:

    Read the full article here:
    http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-windows-10-whats-new-and-how-to-get-the-preview-bits-7000034210/
     
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  3. Ralph Bromley

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    Gah Microsoft, pulling numbers out of their ass again

    Also 10 seems to add features linux has had for eons now like virtual desktops.
     
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    As I have just said in another thread, I don't think MS have ever called it Windows 9, but only referred to "the next OS". They have consistently called the builds Threshold.
     
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    Jeeez man, give it a rest.
    Isn't there a Linux or Mac system out there that could use your expertise. Say maybe fixing the ShellShock exploit.
     
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  7. kemical

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    Announcing Windows 10

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    It’s a humbling and amazing thing to work on Windows, which is used by over 1.5 billion people in every country of the world. From kids playing with computers for the first time, to writers and journalists, to engineers, to gamers, to CEOs, at some point Windows has empowered all of us.

    In the Windows team, we’re proud of this – but we also know that the world today is very different from the one in which Windows grew up. Today, devices outnumber people. Connectivity is like oxygen. The tension between the desire for agility versus stability poses a huge challenge for IT Pros. Experiences – no matter what device you’re on – just need to work. The only thing that hasn’t really changed is the situation for developers – still too much to do, and not enough time.

    One way to look at it is that Windows is at a threshold :). It’s time for a new Windows. This new Windows must be built from the ground-up for a mobile-first, cloud-first world. This new Windows must help our customers be productive in both their digital work and their digital life. This new Windows must empower people and organizations to do great things.

    That new Windows is Windows 10.

    Windows 10 represents the first step of a whole new generation of Windows. Windows 10 unlocks new experiences for customers to work, play and connect. Windows 10 embodies what our customers (both consumers and enterprises) demand and what we will deliver.

    Windows 10 will run across an incredibly broad set of devices – from the Internet of Things, to servers in enterprise datacenters worldwide. Some of these devices have 4 inch screens – some have 80 inch screens – and some don’t have screens at all. Some of these devices you hold in your hand, others are ten feet away. Some of these devices you primarily use touch/pen, others mouse/keyboard, others controller/gesture – and some devices can switch between input types.

    We’re not talking about one UI to rule them all – we’re talking about one product family, with a tailored experience for each device.

    And across this breadth of devices, we are delivering one application platform for our developers. Whether you’re building a game or a line of business application, there will be one way to write a universal app that targets the entire family. There will be one store, one way for applications to be discovered, purchased and updated across all of these devices.

    Windows 10 will deliver the right experience on the right device at the right time. It will be our most comprehensive platform ever.

    Now, during the design of a new Windows, we spend time with many diverse customers. One of the most important of these customers is the enterprise. In the past year I’ve talked to dozens of enterprise customers and listened to how they are using and deploying Windows, and what they need from us.

    These customers are betting their businesses on Windows – in the first half of this year, shipments of enterprise PCs grew 14%. In that same time period, shipments of Windows enterprise tablets grew 33%.

    These customers have a need to evaluate Windows early, so we are starting our dialog with them today. For more details about what Windows 10 will have for these customers, check out this blog post on the Windows for your Business blog.

    Tomorrow, we are excited to announce the Windows Insider Program, where PC experts and IT Pros can get access to a technical preview of Windows 10 for desktops and laptops. Soon after, we’ll also be releasing technical previews of Windows Server and our management tools.

    With the Insider program, we’re inviting our most enthusiastic Windows customers to shape Windows 10 with us. We know they’re a vocal bunch – and we’re looking forward to hearing from them.

    The Windows Insider Program is intended for PC experts and IT pros who are comfortable using pre-release software with variable quality. Insiders will receive a steady stream of early builds from us with the latest features we’re experimenting with.

    This week’s announcements are just the first chapter of our conversation with customers about Windows 10 – with a focus on enterprise features (because enterprises have a need to evaluate software early on) and the desktop/laptop experiences. Early in 2015 we’ll introduce the consumer chapter and talk much more about other device types and more consumer features. We’ll then continue the conversation with the developer chapter at our Build conference, and later in the year we’ll release Windows 10 and look forward to some amazing new devices.

    Today was an important beginning for our customers and partners as we embark on the Windows 10 journey together. I encourage everyone reading this to sign up for the Windows Insider Program, download the technical preview, and let us know what you think. Check here tomorrow for specific details – but in the meantime, here’s a peek at some of the new features you can test drive once you become an Insider:

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    Start menu: The familiar Start menu is back, but it brings with it a new customizable space for your favorite apps and Live Tiles.

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    Everything runs in a window: Apps from the Windows Store now open in the same format that desktop apps do and can be resized and moved around, and have title bars at the top allowing for maximize, minimize, and close with a click.

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    Snap enhancements: You can now have four apps snapped on the same screen with a new quadrant layout. Windows will also show other apps and programs running for additional snapping and even make smart suggestions on filling available screen space with other open apps.

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    New task view button: There’s a new task-view button on the taskbar for quick switching between open files and quick access to any desktops you create.

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    Multiple desktops: Create desktops for different purposes and projects and switch between these desktops easily and pick up where you left off on each desktop.

    Find files faster: File Explorer now displays your recent files and frequently visited folders making for finding files you’ve worked on is easier.

    Watch the below video from Joe Belfiore to see many of these features in action. Immediately you’ll see how Windows 10 carries forward a sense of familiarity, while providing new capabilities to help you way the work you want to and be more productive.


    Today was an important beginning for our customers and partners as we embark on the Windows 10 journey together. While it’s early and things are bound to change as we collaborate together in the months ahead, this should give a strong sense of where we’re going not only with the desktop experience, but in general overall. We’re looking forward to getting your feedback on Windows 10, as well as continuing this conversation in the weeks and months to come.
    Ref:
    http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/09/30/announcing-windows-10/
     
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    The windows 10 Tech Preview is now available in all flavours. This is the download screen taken from Microsoft's Tech Preview site. As you can see the 64bit version is available:
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    The above screen just contains information relating to the download.

    Before you install Windows Technical Preview
    Join the Windows Insider Program to make sure you get all the new features that are on the way. If you’re okay with a moving target and don’t want to miss out on the latest stuff, keep reading. Technical Preview could be just your thing.


    Download and install the preview only if you

    • Want to try out software that’s still in development and like sharing your opinion about it.

    • Don’t mind lots of updates or a UI design that might change significantly over time.

    • Really know your way around a PC and feel comfortable troubleshooting problems, backing up data, formatting a hard drive, installing an operating system from scratch, or restoring your old one if necessary.

    • Know what an ISO file is and how to use it.

    • Aren't installing it on your everyday computer.
    We're not kidding about the expert thing. So if you think BIOS is a new plant-based fuel, Tech Preview may not be right for you.


    Things to keep in mind

    Unexpected PC crashes could damage or even delete your files, so you should back up everything. Some printers and other hardware might not work, and some software might not install or work correctly, including antivirus or security programs. You might also have trouble connecting to home or corporate networks.

    Also, if your PC runs into problems, Microsoft will likely examine your system files. If the privacy of your system files is a concern, consider using a different PC. For more info, read our privacy statement.


    What does it work with?

    Technical Preview should work with the same devices and programs that work with Windows 8.1, but you might need to update or reinstall some of them.

    Drivers for basic functions like storage, networking, input, and display come with Windows. These drivers allow you to complete the Windows installation and connect to the Internet. You might be able to get more drivers from Windows Update.

    For compatibility info, see the Windows 8.1 Compatibility Center.


    If you use a mouse and keyboard
    Your apps and devices should work as expected, though of course there will be exceptions. We’d love to know what you think about how the new Windows works with mouse and keyboard and whether it provides the best of new and familiar functionality for Windows and apps.


    If you have a touch PC
    Technical Preview works with touch, but some things will be rough and unfinished. More touch-friendly improvements are on the way. In the meantime, let us know what it’s like to interact with Windows and apps in the preview.


    If you want to go back to your previous operating system

    You'll need to reinstall your version of Windows from the recovery or installation media that came with your PC (typically DVD media). If you don't have recovery media:

    • For Windows 7 or Windows Vista: Before you update, you might be able to create recovery media from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer's website for more info.

    • For Windows 8.1 or Windows 8: You might be able to create a USB recovery drive. For more info, see Create a USB recovery drive.
    Ref:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/preview-faq#faq=tab0
     
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    A newly installed copy of Windows 10:
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    So far so good.. Feels very zippy especially opening apps and the like. So far there seems a positive reaction to the new os which really is still very much in it's infancy.
     
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    I got the tech preview running in virtualbox, works okay so far except the virtualbox drivers dont work yet.
    Expected, will wait for updates to come in.
    Only complaint is now you may have the opposite problem of windows 8, where metro apps feel out of place on 10's mostly desktop oriented look and feel.
     
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    I hope that was meant as a joke, Ralph... because, after all we've listened to for 2 years, that's clever & humourous. Thanks for a wee laugh.

    The one thing I've always wanted was for Store APPs to open where & how they do, now. Staying @ Desktop & not full screen.

    Cheers,
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    Its funny because its true.
    After all the complaining about fullscreen apps in windows 8 it can be seen as ironic now metro apps are the ones that seem out of place.
    Still full screening metro apps may be a necessary evil for those on tablets and phones, mouse over close buttons would be a nice compromise.
     
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    I do get how you mean it, including the comedic irony. But, for me, they are (now) in THE place I want them and I like that I can size them & move them about in that place. Finally, as I'd always, wish it could be, would be.

    I believe they do stay full on phones & tablets. A trait of Win 10 is same (ONE) OS but, it adapts itself, so to speak, to different devices.... touch, non-touch, big screens, little screens, PCs, Mobile. You get the expected behavior on that device from a common OS.

    Cheers,
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    I'm sorry... I don't see the issue here.
    They run in a Window. They have the same window controls that all windowed apps have close to taskbar with the -, close completely (and they do close completely which is a nice change) with the x and resize down or up with the control between the x and the -
    It seems weird to complain about something that appears to work so well.
     
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    No complaint here, that's for sure. It's great they (now) work just like regular good ole Windows Explorer windows. Gone is the one thing I never liked... having to change screens for things of having an APP go full screen... and have to go through a bunch of manipulations to have APPs & Desktop (maybe a browser window or whatever) in view simultaneously. So, sure as heck no complaint here.

    I empathise, it's hard to grasp complaining over this (now).

    Remember, no matter what, "never can or will please everyone all the time"

    Cheers,
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    And certainly "some people" never.
     
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    I've always installed Windows 8 whilst offline so as not to be compelled to log on to Windows using an email address. Is that still an option in the Windows 10 install?
     
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    I am fairly certain that option is, still, there but, I am not dead sure. Since, I wouldn't even, consider it, I didn't look to closely for it. But, again, I am quite positive the OS can be used under a Local Account. If I recall you look @ the bottom left corner of the initial screens where it asks for one's account info; although the phrasing, the wording of the link is not very obvious or clearly stated as to what it is for or what it means but, it does what you want.

    Just a heads-up/FYI... All my 'stuff' in 8.1 was maintained in 10. It will not do that w/ your approach.

    Cheers,
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    Ok what's missing on the next screenshot:

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    Give up?




    Yup it's the watermark and this will show you how:
    Removed... I eventually removed this app as it messed with the install.
     
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    I knew it was just a matter of time before you found a way....
     

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