Karen Grube
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I had a problem with a Windows 10 update process a couple of months ago that caused a USB-connected external hard drive to be corrupted and inaccessible. I was actually accessing the drive (searching for a file) when a Windows 10 update forced me to "shutdown and update." The system ground to a screeching halt, and when that happens, I know it's Microsoft forcing me to do a Windows 10 update. When I hit the Windows button, I saw that I was right; Windows was forcing me to update. I believe the forced shutdown while I was accessing the drive is what corrupted it.
I have exhausted all of Microsoft's technical support avenues, and the drive is now sitting at the Microsoft Store in Fashion Valley (San Diego) waiting for someone to authorize sending the drive to Seagate for data recovery at no charge to me. There is absolutely nothing more the store or technical support can do at this point except assist me in recovering the data assuming it's recoverable. I just won't let Microsoft damage my little external hard drive (1 terabyte) and then make me pay to get my data back. That's just not right.
I have been trying for about six weeks to get through to someone at a higher level at Microsoft who can authorize the store to send the drive out for recovery, but Microsoft makes that nearly impossible. I've even faxed the complaint department several times. Microsoft doesn't seem to have an executive level customer relations department at all, and no one at the store, at the Answer Desk, or in tier three tech support has been helpful beyond telling me there's nothing more they can do and no one else they can refer me to.
Every single person I've spoken with about this has refused to escalate my request to anyone higher beyond the level of the store manager and a tech support supervisor, neither of which can authorize the data recovery at no charge to me. I find that outrageous and unacceptable. I've even had Microsoft technicians tell me the situation I described is certainly possible. It would be just absolutely too coincidental for the drive to have failed at just the moment Microsoft was forcing me to update. As soon as the update was complete, the system rebooted. When I tried to access the drive again, it wasn't recognized. It was listed in the Device Manager, but Disk Management couldn't initialize it for some reason. So, I was told to take it to the Store, and they've been of no help. They even told me the drive is no longer getting power, although it certainly did the day I brought it in since it showed up in the Device Manager and Disk Management, though it couldn't be "initialized."
Has anyone else had a similar issue with not being able to access an external rive immediately after an update? Please let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions.
I have exhausted all of Microsoft's technical support avenues, and the drive is now sitting at the Microsoft Store in Fashion Valley (San Diego) waiting for someone to authorize sending the drive to Seagate for data recovery at no charge to me. There is absolutely nothing more the store or technical support can do at this point except assist me in recovering the data assuming it's recoverable. I just won't let Microsoft damage my little external hard drive (1 terabyte) and then make me pay to get my data back. That's just not right.
I have been trying for about six weeks to get through to someone at a higher level at Microsoft who can authorize the store to send the drive out for recovery, but Microsoft makes that nearly impossible. I've even faxed the complaint department several times. Microsoft doesn't seem to have an executive level customer relations department at all, and no one at the store, at the Answer Desk, or in tier three tech support has been helpful beyond telling me there's nothing more they can do and no one else they can refer me to.
Every single person I've spoken with about this has refused to escalate my request to anyone higher beyond the level of the store manager and a tech support supervisor, neither of which can authorize the data recovery at no charge to me. I find that outrageous and unacceptable. I've even had Microsoft technicians tell me the situation I described is certainly possible. It would be just absolutely too coincidental for the drive to have failed at just the moment Microsoft was forcing me to update. As soon as the update was complete, the system rebooted. When I tried to access the drive again, it wasn't recognized. It was listed in the Device Manager, but Disk Management couldn't initialize it for some reason. So, I was told to take it to the Store, and they've been of no help. They even told me the drive is no longer getting power, although it certainly did the day I brought it in since it showed up in the Device Manager and Disk Management, though it couldn't be "initialized."
Has anyone else had a similar issue with not being able to access an external rive immediately after an update? Please let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions.
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more due to virus/malware attack issues that lock all the files on your computer's main internal hard drive AND the connected external drive you had running. So this is a real no-no today! If you have a computer guy/gal and they failed to tell you this; you should fire them or ask them to pay for your hard drive recovery charge. They did you a real disservice by keeping that information from you! And now you are suffering and may have to pay the price (almost certainly!) for that lack of knowledge. If you didn't have a computer person during the time this happened, that's unfortunate and I suggest to remedy that by getting a new one now.
I did one on a failed external drive (750GB) my son had last May and that's what it costs now. Computer Tech data recovery in a repair shop or by and independent licensed Tech can run from $35-$165 or so. I do these regularly. When the hard drive is fried and is not spinning, as yours is, it's got to be sent out to a Data Recovery lab where it has to be disassembled in a Clean Room and that costs big bucks as you can see.

I'm not an Attorney, but if you haven't consulted one, it might be worth doing and see if what I'm telling you makes sense. And, I believe you'll have a difficult time getting any Attorney to file a suit against Microsoft for a Home User as I said above. Not impossible, just very difficult. This is only my personal opinion, but having done computers for 46 years; I learned a few things. So, what I am telling you is from me, not our Forum. Each person here has there own opinion on this sticky issue, so you will get different ones from different people. You'll be able to read through them and make an informed decision, hopefully.

Retail stores often won't take that step especially if all of your personal data is ONLY stored on that device and you have no other backup. They won't do it because of the liability and exposure risks to their store. 

If not, and ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL FILES are on that external hard drive, that would cause you all the angst about getting it back. This also prompted Mike Hawthorne's POST #16 warning you about proper backup file precautions in the future. Since no one, including me, didn't ask you this question directly, we are left to guess. But it certainly appears all your stuff you need is on that failed USB drive!! Yes/No?
Most of us professionals here agree with you. We are simply trying to get you to understand that a Court or a Judge is quite likely to side with Microsoft against you, if you failed to observer proper data backup procedures--personally, I believe that's a lame tack for them to use, as very few Home Users are aware of how to do this or even that it's a critical computer ownership issue or not. By, the way, I've tried that particular line with Microsoft in a Civil Lawsuit years ago, and it didn't work for me; the Judge told me to sit down and shut up! But, hey, I'm not an Attorney as I said, so we lost that suit.
The other thing you need to be careful of is "padding" your damages award you are seeking with lost time. For example, since you are a Home User and not a Business User (as I discussed earlier about the $10,000 lawsuit won by the Lady in WA.), how are you going to put a dollar value on say 2 weeks of lost peronal use?? Is that $100, $500, $1,000? And the Court or Judge or even Arbitrator is going to ask you to define an hourly value on your personal time; $10/hr., $20/hr. $30/hr.? And since you don't work 24x7 at home; how many hours a week would you typically be doing computer work at home; 20 hrs., 30 hrs., etc. If you value your personal time at say $20/hr. and you use your computer and that broken USB drive with your personal files on it 20 hrs./wk.; you could theoretically ask for another $400 in lost time!! However, due to much existing Case Law *which I'm very familiar with since it's my field*, the Court/Judge/Arbitrator can throw that right out the window with the bathwater, since you have no way of assigning a dollar value to your home time on the computer, since you are not an employee of a Company, or Individual, and there is no billing basis there.
Of course, I could be mistaken on this, and you might get lucky and get a decision than includes that extra time hours as dollars awarded to you on top of the cost of the Data Recovery. But, I thought you should be aware that I know it's been tried before in California courts and lost every time.