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Saltgrass

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I did need to Verify my account, but right now I am still seeing the Slow in Preview updates. I also see some of my device updates have not installed correctly, which did not happen before.

Since it used to say it might take 24 hours for Preview Build settings to show up correctly, I will give it some time. Since this is a weekend Microsoft may be reconfiguring some of their servers.

Sonny, I will try that tomorrow if nothing happens before then.
 


Sonny

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Slow update is all I am seeing to. It didn't make a difference by doing another clean install.
 


Saltgrass

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I guess I should mention one other thing about the activation. My system is UEFI and I did notice parts of Windows 10 that might make me think they had the ability to write to the UEFI firmware if they wanted... Maybe the Activation is being kept there.
 


Sonny

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Same here. Mine is also UEFI
 


Sonny

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Just got off the phone with Microsoft and was told there will only be the slow ring from here on. They are working on fixing the bugs in 10147.
 


Saltgrass

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There is a thread over on the Microsoft forum which describes how the activation process works. There are very specific about saying "Activate Online", so that is more than likely where the info is stored.

The say for reinstalling after the initial Activation, you will be able to create installation media, but they are not specific about exactly how the media will be created.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a

Someone has also put some general keys in another thread which I will try tomorrow to see if it will install cleanly. Sonny has info which indicates Slow builds will be normal, but I do have an install which indicates FAST, possibly because it was set that way in the prior install. But as has been mentioned, it may not actually make a difference. I was just wondering if there is a bug in that part depending on how the upgrade was done.
 


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The OP in the link, states that you will be able, after activation, to download installation media: "You will be able to download and create installation media on a USB drive or DVD for the appropriate Windows 10 Edition "
He is a moderator, and may be authoritive, but seems to be fairly new. His own published links seem to contradict what he says. For example, on the above quote, this is what MS says on his link, even more vague.

"Yes. Once you’ve upgraded to Windows 10 using the free upgrade offer, you will be able to reinstall, including a clean install, on the same device. You won’t need to purchase Windows 10 or go back to your prior version of Windows and upgrade again. You’ll also be able to create your own installation media like a USB drive or DVD, and use that to upgrade your device or reinstall after you’ve upgraded."

I can find no further info on clarification of that statement.

Off hand, I do wonder how you "create a USB drive or DVD" lol. The author obviously means "On".

This makes me wonder why the pressure to reserve.

"Can I get my free Windows 10 upgrade even if I didn’t reserve?
Yes. The easiest way to get the free upgrade is to reserve, but you can upgrade even if you don’t reserve.
Once Windows 10 is available, we’ll begin notifying devices that their free upgrade is available. Just open the Get Windows 10 app to schedule your upgrade. Note: Some notifications will go out as soon as Windows 10 is available; others may go out in the weeks or months following."
 


davehc

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fwiw. (Rumour!)= It looks like they have stopped, and are consolidating, on build 0154. Super. 15/04 - my wife's birthday!!
 


kemical

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Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds [UPDATED 6/22]
June 19, 2015 by Gabe Aul

This post was updated at 12:00pm on June 22nd.

Over the weekend we saw a few articles about this post and confusion that it caused. I’m sorry for that and want to take a moment to clear up a few things. This is a very complex topic, since we’re managing:

Let me start by restating very clearly that Windows 10, whether you get it on 7/29 or whether you got it in a preview form through the Windows Insider Program is intended to be installed on Genuine Windows devices.

Friday’s post was intended to clarify how the Windows Insider Program will proceed, and in attempting to do so created some unintended confusion. I sincerely apologize for that and will try to separate them more clearly below in order to provide more clarity.

The crux of it is this:

  • Do you want to continue as a Windows Insider and keep getting preview builds after 7/29?
  • Or do you want to upgrade your Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 system that has been getting Windows 10 Insider Preview builds to the 7/29 release and stop being an Insider?
“I want to continue as a Windows Insider!” If you want to continue as a Windows Insider past 7/29 there is nothing you need to do. You’re already opted in and receiving builds in the Fast or Slow ring depending upon your selection. This is prerelease software and is activated with a prerelease key. Each individual build will expire after a time, but you’ll continue to receive new builds so by the time an older prerelease build expires you’ll have received a new one. Since we’re continuing the Windows Insider Program you’ll be able to continue receiving builds and those builds will continue to be activated under the terms of the Windows Insider Program. We provide ISOs for these builds for recovery from any significant problems, but they are still pre-release software. As part of the program we’ll upgrade Insiders to what is for all intents and purposes the same build as what other customers will get on 7/29, but that will be just another build for Insiders, and those who stay in the program will simply get the next build after as well.

“I want to opt out of the Windows Insider Program on 7/29.” If you decide to opt-out of the program and upgrade to the 7/29 build you will be subject to exactly the same terms and conditions that govern the offer* that was extended to all Genuine Windows 7 and 8.1 customers. This is not a path to attain a license for Windows XP or Windows Vista systems. If your system upgraded from a Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 license it will remain activated, but if not, you will be required to roll back to your previous OS version or acquire a new Windows 10 license. If you do not roll back or acquire a new license the build will eventually expire.

It is our hope that the vast majority of Windows Insiders who have been with us since we announced the program last year will continue forward, and it was in that light that we authored the blog post about upcoming changes to the program. I regret that this caused confusion about who was or was not eligible for the Windows 10 upgrade offer, but hope that this helps to clarify.

Thanks,
g

Below is the original blog post which was updated at 1:00pm on June 20th.

Hi everyone, we’re hard at work on the next builds that we’ll send out to you for PC and Mobile. I don’t have an update on timing for that quite yet, but I do have some important changes to tell you about that are coming with the next PC build as we get ready for July 29th.

Microsoft Account notifications
If you don’t have your Microsoft Account (MSA) connected to your PC, starting in the next build you’ll start seeing notifications asking you to do so. You’ll need to connect the MSA that you registered for the Windows Insider Program with (and accepted the “Microsoft Windows Insider Program Agreement”) in order to continue receiving new Windows 10 Insider Preview builds (both Fast and Slow rings) from Windows Update. If you already have your MSA connected to your account on your PC, then you’re all set. We’re introducing new infrastructure in Windows Update to help us deliver new builds more effectively to Windows Insiders, and ensure that we’re flighting builds to people who have registered and opted in to the program. Connecting your MSA also allows seamless access to Windows Insider-only functionality in the Windows Feedback app and Insider Hub too.

This change is for the Windows Insider Program ONLY, and is specific to how we’re delivering the Insider Preview builds. Once available on July 29th, you do not need an MSA to upgrade Windows 10 on your Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 PCs if they are not receiving Insider Preview builds. You will not be required to use an MSA on new PCs that come with Windows 10 preinstalled or clean installed from media. Some features in Windows 10 do require an MSA to use, such as downloading apps in the Windows Store.

Getting the final release on July 29th
Windows Insiders running the Windows 10 Insider Preview (Home and Pro editions) with their registered MSA connected to their PC will receive the final release build of Windows 10 starting on July 29th. This will come as just another flight. I’ve gotten a lot of questions from Windows Insiders about how this will work if they clean installed from ISO. As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build. Once you have successfully installed this build, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh. It’s important to note that only people running Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1can upgrade to Windows 10 as part of the free upgrade offer.*

If you are running the Enterprise edition of the Windows 10 Insider Preview, to upgrade to the final release of Windows 10 Enterprise you will need to download and activate it from Volume Licensing Service Center. As a reminder, the Enterprise edition of the Windows 10 Insider Preview is not eligible for the free upgrade offer and can be upgraded to the final release of Windows 10 through an active Software Assurance agreement.

Stay with us as a Windows Insider
As we’ve announced before, the Windows Insider Program will continue even after we release Windows 10 on July 29th. Windows Insiders will continue to receive future flights as we begin to work on the next release immediately after Windows 10 ships. You’ll get to see the latest Windows fixes, features, and updates and give us feedback. So stay with us! Of course, we’ll provide you an option to leave the program and stay on the final build if you choose: but we hope that we’ll continue to provide you great reasons to remain a Windows Insider.

Insider Hub & Windows Feedback app
Because we’re getting ready for the final release, we’re removing a few things we don’t expect to ship to everyone. So starting with the next build, the Insider Hub will no longer be pre-installed. Windows Insiders can reinstall the Insider Hub app through the following steps:

  • Go to Settings, System, Apps & features
  • Click Manage optional features then Add a feature
  • Select the Insider Hub entry (the list is in alphabetical order) and click Install.
You will have to go through this process with each build we flight prior to the final release on July 29th, but once we start flighting new builds after July 29th it will be preinstalled again.
The Windows Feedback app will continue to be included in builds and in the final release. But as I noted above, the Windows Feedback app will have functionality specific to Windows Insiders who are registered for the program with their MSA connected to their PC.

One more thing – Here comes Microsoft Edge!
In the next build we release to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring, the “Project Spartan” name will officially change to Microsoft Edge. One result of this naming means that the Microsoft Edge app has a new app ID. This will cause any favorites, cookies, history and Reading list items that you had saved in the Project Spartan app to be lost after upgrading from a previous Windows 10 Insider Preview build. If you want to keep these, you will need to back up your favorites before the next flight! To save your favorites, follow these steps before upgrading to the next build we release (do it now):

  • Copy your favorites from%localappdata%/Packages/Microsoft.Windows.Spartan_cw5n1h2txyewy/AC/Spartan/User/Default/Favorites.
  • Save them to %userprofile%/Favorites.
  • After upgrading to the next build open Microsoft Edge, choose Settings, and you’ll see an option to import favorites from another browser. Choose Internet Explorer to import the favorites you saved in your %userprofile% directory into Microsoft Edge.
We expect to have new Insider Preview builds for you soon and think you’ll be excited about the continuing progress we’re making on Windows 10. We couldn’t have done it without you.
Thanks,
g

*More information about the free upgrade offer can be found at Windows.com.

ref:
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/




I'm undecided myself.. I'll have to see what the final build turns out like I guess.
 


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kemical

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New build on the horizon?
new build.JPG
 


kemical

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Consider the following scenario:
  • You install a Core Edition of Windows 10 Insider Preview.
  • You are running Build 10130 of this Core Edition of Windows 10 Insider Preview.
  • There are new preview builds available for your current preview build settings.
In this scenario, when you scan for new preview builds, Windows Update does not detect the available preview builds.
Microsoft release KB3070677 Update for build 10130 so that new builds will be picked up..
 


kemical

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Although Microsoft is yet to release a new build of Windows 10 desktops for Insiders, WinBeta has managed to get their hands on Windows 10 build 10154, and as per usual we are showcasing all of the late-breaking changes within the new build.
ref:
http://www.winbeta.org/news/video-c...uild-10154-showcasing-tweaks-and-improvements

The release notes for the above build can be found here:
http://wzascok.livejournal.com/44145.html
 


Mike

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Lot of semi- news over this past weekend.
10151 leaked into the wild by some Chinese Resource
10154 release to "partners" and its' release notes leaked publicly.
Gabe Aul promising " a new build soon", and reporting that he is using 10159.

Sure would be nice as an "insider" to get a piece of the action.
 


Saltgrass

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So, what build number do you think will be used for the RTM, 10200???

For some reason, I don't really care about the reviews. If I wanted someone else to tell me what was happening, I would not have joined the Insiders program..

You know the desktop graphic with the guy swimming... I keep expecting a scroll to come up saying "Taken with iPhone". ;)
 


Trouble

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I haven't a clue.... just like everyone else I'm patiently waiting (back) on 10130 to see what drops next, but....
One month from today we're suppose to be done with this and personally, they are not doing anything to encourage me, to remain a Windows Insider.
 


Mike

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what build number do you think will be used for the RTM, 10200???
Interestingly, they have not incremented the overall Windows build number to 6.4, but at the time of this writing, seem to have left it at 6.3. It is possible they will increment the build number to 6.4.(last build number). Some were talking about them changing the entire build number to "10", but as this is still a Windows NT operating system, I don't see how that is happening. Although, stranger things have happened. Usually they seem to round off the build number to an even number, as you say build 10200.

Last build number for Windows 8.1 is 9600.17736.amd64fre.winblue_r9.150322-1500.

For Windows 10 we are seeing, ex: 10135.0.amd64fre.winmain_prs.150531-1700

In reality, they will stop at a RTM build when they feel confident that the system is stable enough, or, it is July 29th. lol.
 


davehc

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I love puzzles. They are working now on build 10.0.10161. Those digits add up to 10. lol
 


kemical

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New build folks..
Hi everyone,
We have a new build for PCs releasing today to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring – Build 10158. This build is full of improvements to stability and quality as well as some additional UI polish. It also has some great new features included for Microsoft Edge as well.
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...ndows-10-insider-preview-build-10158-for-pcs/
 


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