Got it running!! PS not the problem as you had indicated it might not be. Took it apart and after watching numerous utubes about amber light problem, a guy named Shawn presented a detailed look at what to do to fix. Followed his instructions and after a $7.00 investment in thermal paste, a few dollars on a cmos battery, we did it!!! Well, actually my partner did it - wow. Cleaned everything up, heated up parts he indicated, reapplied paste and this morning there it was -- "starting windows"... very good feeling. Now, one question I do have - the HDD light keeps blinking - is that a problem? Also, thanks again.