Windows 10 Why I Won't Upgrade To Windows 10 Just Yet.

[Andrea Borman]

It seems that Microsoft bring out a new operating system every 3 years or so. It is getting impossible to keep up with it.
The recent new version of Windows is Windows 10 which I have tried one of the builds a few months ago. While I found that all of the software that I used on Windows 8 works on Windows 10. There are things that I don't like about it which are the changes.

One of the the worst changes is that you will no longer be able to hide or disable automatic updates on Windows 10. And this is one of the main reason why I don't want to upgrade.
I am running Windows 7 32 bit which I use most of the time and I also use Windows 8 32 bit. I don't have 8.1 because I never bothered to buy it because I already have 8. Though I did use an RTM trial version when it first came out.Windows 8.1 is just an updated version of Windows 8 and is the same as 8 except that it has a few added features such as the start button, but works the same as Windows 8.

Windows 10 is supposed to be like Windows 8 except that it has a start menu so you don't have to ad third party software to re-instate it as you did in 8 and 8.1. But a lot of the features we know and loved are now gone in Windows 10.

The main feature that is removed is the option to disable updates altogether and to control how you install updates. As you know in Windows 7 and 8 and all past versions of Windows you can chose not to update at all or to download or notify of updates but you chose wen or if you want to install them.

But in Windows 10 you won't be able to do this. You will have to have automatic updates whether you like it or not. And this will mean that if get have an update or software you don't want to install, update will install it anyway and you won't be able to hide or stop it.

Also there is no Winhlp update in Windows 10 so you won't be able to view any of your Winhelp files that come with your 16 bit software. Although you will still be able to use 16 bit apps if you have 32 bit Windows 10 but not read the help files!

The old personalize options the right click is gone and from the look of the latest build the OS is quite ugly looking. And the old Windows Vista and 7 icons that were also on Windows 8 are gone.
Now you have these ugly Metro or Comic Cartoon like icon on all of your folders. YUK.
I don't see the need for a Windows 10 and there is no point in it. Since most Windows users have only just started using Windows 7 now that Windows XP is no longer supported and have only just gotten used to Windows 8. So why should I use this when I still have Windows 7 which will still be supported for any 5 years until 2020 and Windows 8 until 2023 (same with 8.1.) If you are going to try something a bit different I suppose you can use Windows 8 but Windows 10-NO. I say give it a miss if you still have Windows 7 or 8 which most people do have.

 

[Trouble]

So you took something that says

You might not be able to install Linux on a PC which comes preloaded with Windows 10

And decided to tell everyone who read your post that

you won't be able to disable secure boot

AND

you won't be able to do a clean install of Windows because of the secure boot settings

Microsoft announced that PCs with Windows 10 and UEFI must ship with Secure Boot enabled by default.

That snippet alone would, to any logical thinker, suggest that you could disable it.

 

[Andrea Borman]

So you took something that says

And decided to tell everyone who read your post that

AND



That snippet alone would, to any logical thinker, suggest that you could disable it.

Well that post did not say you won't be able to disable Secure Boot. It said you might not be able to. But posts on the web said that with Windows 8 but it never happen. You can disable Secure Boot on Windows 8 so I hope it's the same with Windows 10. Most people want to either do a clean install of Windows to get rid of the bloatware from the PC maker. Also you might want to install Windows 7 or another OS. So for that you would have to disable Secure Boot otherwise the OS won't load.

 

[Saltgrass]

I haven't followed the entire thread, but most systems which shipped with Windows 8 had Secure Boot enabled....

All bioses I have see allow the user to disable secure boot. But these things are at the discretion of whoever is in control of what bios options you are allowed to access....

The reason I would go to a new OS, first of all, would not be based on whether it was free or not. I look at the UI to see if it behaves the way I like and the OS has new capabilities which make it more usable. I rejected Windows 8 except for test machines. Windows 10, just because of the Start button, will be more user friendly than Windows 8. This decision must be left to the individual, and after making themselves aware of all the pros and cons, will make a decision best for them.

The unknown is in the bowels of the OS which would be enhancements most users would never actually see. Hard to make a decision based on something you cannot see.

 

[Trouble]

Also you might want to install Windows 7 or another OS. So for that you would have to disable Secure Boot otherwise the OS won't load.

You need to stop making declarative statements that are untrue.
Windows 7 64bit will install on UEFI / Secure Boot systems and I'm almost positive that the latest version (64bit) of Ubuntu (and maybe other Linux Distros) will as well.

Note: One of the common issues we see is that users try to install X86 version with UEFI enabled in the bios. X86 does not support UEFI

SOURCE: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/...talling-windows-7-on-uefi-based-computer.aspx

 

[MikeHawthorne]

If there are going to be systems that don't allow Secure Boot to be turned off, it will be a good Idea to determine that before you buy a new computer.

If it effects people's choice as to brand then likely no one will ship them that way.

 

[strollin]

I have heard of (but never actually seen) machines that don't allow Secure Boot to be turned off.

 

[ussnorway]

Yes but mostly atm or other retail type machines... on private laptops its just to stop people buggering their system by mistake.

Imo (I assume) the 1st guy was mis-quoted and prob said Windows 7 installs won't be supported on new laptops made to take Windows 10 because the bios settings can only be backwards compatable so-far.

to be clear: Secure Boot is a bios option of the motherboard maker and has nothing to do with Windows 7, 8 or 10 being installed.