Windows Vista Windows Vista...Like It Or Not

[asta-la-vista]

Personally, like many of you, I have a hate-love relationship with this new, extremely hyped OS. I have become quite familiar with it, working with it now for about 3 months, mainly in the areas of media production. OK, on the upside... Vista's security is such that it rivals Fort Knox. So much so, that even the user (owner) must negotiate with the system for special permissions to do simple tasks like delete a folder, and we're not just talking critical root folders here, but even deleting a simple menu folder requires that one give up their eye teeth and left kidney before getting a pass. Next, I have come to appreciate the nifty improvements in navigation; jumping from the Documents folder to the Program Files folder for example is a breeze, due to the added navigation buttons at the top of the windows. Several other niceties are the auto-refreshing of file lists, multi-choices in folder/file viewing, expanded search options, an improved email server, and a sleeker overall 32 bit appearance in graphics. OK, now for the bad news...Aside from the aformentioned security annoyances, there are a whole slew of others, including some really buggy ones that sent me fleeing to my local computer store to buy a reduced price copy of Windows XP, only to find that I cannot install it on my brand new HP Pavilion v6500 laptop...aaaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!! Next, call me festidious, but I would rather prefer that my folder/file views are left the way I had them, thank you, and not rearranged to Vista's liking each and everytime I return to a particular window..."and who's been sleeping in my bed?!" (By the way, Neuton's fundamental law of gravity dictates that if you stand an open folder on it's side, that is vertically, all of the contents will indeed fall out.) Unfortunately, it gets worse...you know all of those beloved, endearing programs you paid a pretty penny for? Get ready to unload a fair amount of them at your next garage sale, because Vista treats them like terrorists trying to sneak across the Mexican border. (Darn, wouldn't you know it, I forgot to take my crash course in 16 bit vs. 32 bit compatibility.) And what is up with Windows Media Player 11? I just want to listen to some music, not get roped and lassled into buying the new Britney Spears album. And the layout looks like it was designed by an Anime art student. (Not that there's anything wrong with Anime.) And so, here I sit in my high-chair, being force-fed mashed split pea; which tastes pretty bland, because I have already had my dessert...mmmmm, yummy.

P.S. Bill, I had a premonition that another pie was headed straight for your mug. And it wasn't Lemon Muringue either.

 

[03hdfatboy]

I tried the "Suppress and skip" thing and it is OK I've only had it lil' box pop up once to ask for permission...I can live with that.

 

[kemical]

The TweakGuides is excellent.

The Tweakguides is a brilliant read as you say..

 

[03hdfatboy]

I tried the "Suppress and skip" thing and it is OK I've only had it lil' box pop up once to ask for permission...I can live with that.

It worked until I rebooted. Had to turn UAC back off. Oh well

 

[kemical]

LOL, long live the UAC... (not)

 

[Celestra]

Re: Windows Vista..Like It Or Not

Seriously, I wonder if there is any way to make that Tweak permanent ? So many people want to keep Defender and suppress the permissions. The permission thing was designed for a family with little kids and big offices with loads of employees. I might e-mail Tweak Vista and see what the pros say, the ideas great. Oh well, back to taxes--

 

[03hdfatboy]

Hey I found out what it does do..When you turn UAC back off the little red warning is not present in the notification area

 

[kemical]

You can get rid of that another way.. If you open the security centre you'll see down the left hand side the words 'change the way windows alerts me'. Click on that and you can stop all those annoying little shields in the taskbar.

 

[03hdfatboy]

Well after reading up on the "Vista Tweak Guide" I decided to turn UAC back on

 

[kemical]

I'm still a non-believer I'm afraid..

 

[03hdfatboy]

I'm still a non-believer I'm afraid..

LOL

Well read your tweak guide and you might be more afraid to leave it off

 

[kemical]

Don't get me wrong I think the Tweakguide is a brilliant read, great to use as a reference guide but I don't totally agree with everything that this guy has written in there. Take yourself.. You like to run your rig a certain way and have definately the experience not to bugger it up. Now just because you've read the tweakguide I'm sure it's not going to be a life changing event for you.. But still you'll take from the guide what you need and ignore the rest (unless it's important and needs attention). With me I have certain start-up programs that the UAC/Defender hates and I have to go through this ritual of clicking lots of boxes to get them to run when the UAC is turned on... Laziness...? Definately! Will it turn my rig into something useless if I don't keep the UAC on.. I doubt it
The UAC really is designed for network enviroments or where you've got lots of 'rugrats' running around, so for me it'll stay turned off for now, but thats me, my decision and as for someone else the decision could be completely different...

(rant,rave,bla,bla)
Just take the soapbox from underneath me

 

[03hdfatboy]

Don't get me wrong I think the Tweakguide is a brilliant read, great to use as a reference guide but I don't totally agree with everything that this guy has written in there. Take yourself.. You like to run your rig a certain way and have definately the experience not to bugger it up. Now just because you've read the tweakguide I'm sure it's not going to be a life changing event for you.. But still you'll take from the guide what you need and ignore the rest (unless it's important and needs attention). With me I have certain start-up programs that the UAC/Defender hates and I have to go through this ritual of clicking lots of boxes to get them to run when the UAC is turned on... Laziness...? Definately! Will it turn my rig into something useless if I don't keep the UAC on.. I doubt it
The UAC really is designed for network enviroments or where you've got lots of 'rugrats' running around, so for me it'll stay turned off for now, but thats me, my decision and as for someone else the decision could be completely different...

(rant,rave,bla,bla)
Just take the soapbox from underneath me

I hear ya, I take some of what is in it with a grain of salt and I used to have the same issue with Internet Privacy Keeper (I love that program) before sp1 but sence the update I hardly ever get UAC to pop up now.

 

[kemical]

I was hoping that with the update (sp1) that my situation would improve also. If it wasn't for the hassle I mention above I'd run it no worries, I'm not against running it, just like an easy life..

 

[MTHall51]

I was thinking the same thing. After a bit of reading, now I don't know if it is safe to leave it off, or if it will drive nuts if I leave it on. Now, I just have to get Vista to boot again.

 

[kemical]

Get vista to boot again? Problems?

 

[03hdfatboy]

Now, I just have to get Vista to boot again.

I've had that problem B-4. Are you running an ATI video card?

 

[kemical]

Hey Fatboy, just to get back to the UAC thing for a moment, I'd thought I'd include this article for amusement.. Although as you'll see it does have an element of truth:
Link Removed

 

[03hdfatboy]

" Most importantly, when you're logged in as an Administrator, any Trojan horses, viruses, or other malware you unwittingly download will have free reign to attack your system with impunity. "
Neil McAllister
PC World

That is the part is that makes sense to me. I've had Trojans in my PC before and a well written one is almost imposable to get rid of. And I'm willing to put up with it for that bit of security. Just my 2 cents

 

[kemical]

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree...

 

[03hdfatboy]

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree...

LOL

That was all I had to say but for some reason you can't leave a short responce