Sonny
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Norton 360
MSE
MSE
There is no need or sense for paying for security. Especially when there is free security that is far, far better than Norton. Most IT Pros (& countless others) know this. We run around removing Norton & giving clients, better products & better performance.
Cheers,
Drew
I used Eset Smart Security but am not crazy about Firewall. So I managed to get a copy at a great deal of Webroot Antivirus but now need a good Firewall to work with it. Or just how good is Windows 7 firewall or is there something I can add to it. I have private downloaded but sometimes I think it needs an update and more options like the old Zonealarm. Just had to redo my computer so want to make sure of the best firewall to put on it. Preferrably a free one that is not complicated or has strong Hips programs that will conflict with Malware-Bytes.
i just want to put some questions here as is it wise to go for freebie AV software ? are they of enough potential to put a sturdy check on sorts of threats ? and finally .. why MSE is the best among the rest?
MSE/Windows Defender on Windows 8. Free and doesn't affect system performance much. It does good at finding malware. In reality, I personally don't really need an antivirus because I've only seen a system exploit once on a computer without the latest updates.
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Joe,
In reality, YES YOU DO!! No computer should ever be on the Net, for any length of time, w/out protection. Nor does your reason for not needing an AV hold water... there is no logic or merit to the rational you cite. It's the same as having no health or car insurance or being HIV positive & having unprotected sex. Computers have security BEFORE they get sick or spread disease. To say go w/out because of what never happened (past tense) has NOTHING TO DO w/ prevention of what CAN happen.
Cheers,
Drew
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You are right that I'm basing my opinion on what my experience has been. I have faith that my web browser's sandbox will block every known security risk and patches will fix exploits as they are discovered. It is true that I'm at risk of hitting an exploit before it has been patched, but the Window UAC will contain any possible damage.
What's the worst that can happen then? I copy my days to 4 locations which aren't at risk of the virus touching. Thus, I'm not worried about data loss. They could possibly get my LastPass password, but 2 factor authentication would block them from using it. They could start looking through my documents for private information. I'm in the process of setting appropriate permissions on those files to prevent access.
I use Process Explorer often enough that any suspicious process won't go unfound for more than a day even if it uses no resources.
Part of my job is actually removing viruses from computers. Thus, I would not need to pay anyone to fix it, and if it's not obvious I wouldn't really care if I need to reinstall Windows.
So in reality my situation does not require an antivirus because I have taken the precautions that are needed in case a virus slips past an antivirus, which does happen to some people. I do have an antivirus though; it makes life a little more worry free.
I would never go without a correctly configured firewall which is technically all that is needed to connect to the internet. But when using a web browser or almost any internet client precautions need to be taken such as an antivirus.
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You are missing the point. You can risk making your own machine sick if you want. But, by using no protection you risk helping to make other computers sick. You have to right or business putting others @ risk. If you are no going to use anything, stay off the Net.
Cheers,
Drew
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Lol. What? If I got a virus that an antivirus would catch then how is that going to infect a computer with an antivirus?
By "Net" do you mean my own personal LAN? Any computer outside of my LAN has a firewall to protect it or it's most likely already been infected. Maybe you are taking about public Wi-Fi hotspots which Windows warns are dangerous and sets the firewall to block everything, essentially eliminating any risk.
How am I putting anyone in danger? I must be missing something.
Trying to protect your computer by eliminating the existence of risks is unrealistic and will probably never happen. You need to protect defensively to the extent that someone actively trying to hack your stuff can't get in (e.g. patch, update, firewall your own devices instead of telling other people to never get malware, because it will happen to somebody).
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